7/29 (SAR): Vanderbilt (G1), Bwlg Grn, Jim Dandy, Amsterdam (G2's)

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

If, if, if. You're already calling the horse's career dead in order to justify a bad snarky opinion. They took a shot and he hardly disgraced himself. The game needs more owners willing to try something unorthodox, not fewer.

What exactly was the "bad opinion"? That is was a dumb spot to enter the horse? He didn't hit the board in a 5-horse field. I don't need to predict that his long-term career is compromised in order to justify the original opinion. The actual results of the Jim Dandy are more than adequate.

Instead of witnessing an also-ran performance (however heroic or otherwise) in the Jim Dandy, we might have seen him crush an allowance race as a springboard to something like the Allen Jerkens or El Cajon before "taking a shot" in a major route race.

Now the future is in disarray. My guess is Reddam watched the race with the same rose-colored lenses you did ("he almost beat TWO classic winners!"), and will target the Pennsylvania Derby if not the Travers. Should be good for another middle move and fade job. Good luck.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

What exactly was the "bad opinion"? That is was a dumb spot to enter the horse? He didn't hit the board in a 5-horse field. I don't need to predict that his long-term career is compromised in order to justify the original opinion. The actual results of the Jim Dandy are more than adequate.

Instead of witnessing an also-ran performance (however heroic or otherwise) in the Jim Dandy, we might have seen him crush an allowance race as a springboard to something like the Allen Jerkens or El Cajon before "taking a shot" in a major route race.

Now the future is in disarray. My guess is Reddam watched the race with the same rose-colored lenses you did ("he almost beat TWO classic winners!"), and will target the Pennsylvania Derby if not the Travers. Should be good for another middle move and fade job. Good luck.

Yeah he definitely should've been pointing for the El Cajon instead.

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Yeah he definitely should've been pointing for the El Cajon instead.

You mean a sensible race he might actually win?

Graded stakes winners Private Zone, Jimmy Creed, Fed Biz, Fury Kapcori, Holy Lute, Gimme Da Lute, Conquest Two Step, and Toowindytohaulrox all started in that race in the last few years.

Never mind that Accelerate, who just knocked off Arrogate in the San Diego, won the race last year in...wait for it... the start following his maiden victory. He won a graded stakes right after that and then placed in the BC Dirt Mile.

[RHT2004]

From what i have seen the last 2 days, unless Bob is sending West Coast or American Anthem, Good Samaritan is going to win the Travers.

[knickslions2]

Originally Posted by RHT2004

From what i have seen the last 2 days, unless Bob is sending West Coast or American Anthem, Good Samaritan is going to win the Travers.

Tapwrit and classic Empire will have something to say in that race

[Rudeboyelvis]

Originally Posted by knickslions2

Tapwrit and classic Empire will have something to say in that race

Aside from the two impossibly horrid trips in the Bluegrass and KD, what exactly has Tapwrit done wrong, again?

My only knock on him is they've just put him back in training (7/22) with only 2 works to date out of the Belmont. Is Pletcher even pointing to the Travers with him?

[knickslions2]

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

Aside from the two impossibly horrid trips in the Bluegrass and KD, what exactly has Tapwrit done wrong, again?

My only knock on him is they've just put him back in training (7/22) with only 2 works to date out of the Belmont. Is Pletcher even pointing to the Travers with him?

Good to hear from ya Dan. It seems the travers is on his radar from what I read so hopefully he will be fit.

[parsixfarms]

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

Aside from the two impossibly horrid trips in the Bluegrass and KD, what exactly has Tapwrit done wrong, again?

My only knock on him is they've just put him back in training (7/22) with only 2 works to date out of the Belmont. Is Pletcher even pointing to the Travers with him?

Pletcher said in July that Tapwrit would be trained up to the Travers.