Of course Arrogate on top, but who's ranked second ?

[knickslions2]

Originally Posted by Hickory Hill Hoff

NOBODY beats Arrogate ......... yet

Hard to beat a horse that never runs

[RHT2004]

Originally Posted by knickslions2

Hard to beat a horse that never runs

This is absolutely ridiculous. The BC Classic, Pegasus, Dubai World cup triple isn't enough?

[knickslions2]

Originally Posted by RHT2004

This is absolutely ridiculous. The BC Classic, Pegasus, Dubai World cup triple isn't enough?

Figured I stir you up lol

[ElPrado]

Here's a question for you.Do you guys like the way Arrogate was developed, meaning as Baffert did without rushing him into graded stakes within 30 seconds of a maiden win, versus running them in Gr stakes by their second breath, which seems to have become the norm now in New York based trainers?

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by ElPrado

Here's a question for you.Do you guys like the way Arrogate was developed, meaning as Baffert did without rushing him into graded stakes within 30 seconds of a maiden win, versus running them in Gr stakes by their second breath, which seems to have become the norm now in New York based trainers?

Going from a conditioned allowance race to the classic 10f Travers is a patient progression?

Make no mistake, if Arrogate didn't have physical issues as a 2yo he would have likely been another TC burnout.

By the way, who are all these NY-based rush jobs? A comparable horse to Arrogate last year was Connect, who actually got in a minor stakes start prior to the Travers.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

Going from a conditioned allowance race to the classic 10f Travers is a patient progression?

Make no mistake, if Arrogate didn't have physical issues as a 2yo he would have likely been another TC burnout.

By the way, who are all these NY-based rush jobs? A comparable horse to Arrogate last year was Connect, who actually got in a minor stakes start prior to the Travers.

Maybe Pletcher?

Though I hardly see how young horses are handled differently based on geographical location.

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

Maybe Pletcher?

Restricting ourselves to 3yo that missed the Triple Crown, Pletcher certainly gave Strong Hope, Left Bank, and Speightstown plenty of time to develop.

If anything, its easier to develop a late bloomer in NY, because they actually can still fill allowance races restricted to 3yos there.