BC NOTEBOOK: Distaff, Classic ~ Final Fields

[tanner12oz]

Is a distaff classic double being offered? $1 minimum?

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by tanner12oz

Is a distaff classic double being offered? $1 minimum?

Yes..

[tanner12oz]

Great I love the multiday exotics

[Dunbar]

Here are fixed odds currently being offered by one sportsbook. (Bookmaker.eu)

TO WIN LONGINES BREEDERS' CUP DISTAFF - RACE 9
Songbird
-105
Land Over Sea
+8050
Curalina
+1615
Corona Del Inca (ARG)
+8050
Stellar Wind
+385
Forever Unbrindled
+2050
I'm a Chatterbox
+2050
Beholder
+385

I hope we see those 3.85-1 odds in the parimutuals.

Here are their fixed odds for the Classic

ODDS TO WIN BREEDERS' CUP CLASSIC - RACE 12
Effinex
+2123
Frosted
+750
Keen Ice
+2337
California Chrome
+110
Win the Space
+3764
Melatonin
+1242
War Story
+2661
Shaman Ghost
+2337
Hoppertunity
+1661
Arrogate
+285

[taxicab]

I've been reading a lot lately about Songbird running slower than what she'll be facing Friday.
So I figured I would look up the 2015 BC @ Keenland and see how slow she was back then by comparison.
As a 2yo Filly this is how she shook out.......slower...huh ?

BC Juvy Filly:[Songbird] 23.60/47.15(23.55)/111.42(24.27)/1:36.33(24.91)/1:42.73(6.40).

BC Distaff:[Stellar Wind 2nd/Curalina 3rd/ I'm A Chatterbox 8th]
23.57/47.28(23.71)/111.49(24.21)/1:36.36(24.89)1:48.98(12.62).

BC Juvy:[Nyquist winner] 23.49/47.62(24.13)/112.14(24.52)/137.26(25.12)/1:43.79(6.53).

BC Classic:{AP}23.99/47.50(23.51)/111.21(24.26)/1:35.47(24.60)/2:00.07.

So time wise Songbird pretty much ran equal to SW/CUR/IAC did in the Distaff......while setting quicker fractions for the half/3/4's.
In the Distaff the 3 pacemakers all finished up the track.....SW/CUR benefitted from speed duel fractions that were slower then what Songbird set and drew out with.........all things considered,Songbird's Juvy was better than the Distaff.

Nyquist,the 2016 Kentucky Derby winner ran a much slower race up/down than Songbird......a full second+ slower than Songbird.

Now factor in a bigger,stronger....... undefeated in 7 Graded Stakes this year Songbird and I strongly suggest the word slower should never be used in the same sentence as Songbird.
Can Songbird get beat Friday?...........of course she can.
But it won't have a thing to do with her "numbers" or her "slower" way of going.

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by taxicab

I've been reading a lot lately about Songbird running slower than what she'll be facing Friday.
So I figured I would look up the 2015 BC @ Keenland and see how slow she was back then by comparison.
As a 2yo Filly this is how she shook out.......slower...huh ?

BC Juvy Filly:[Songbird] 23.60/47.15(23.55)/111.42(24.27)/1:36.33(24.91)/1:42.73(6.40).

BC Distaff:[Stellar Wind 2nd/Curalina 3rd/ I'm A Chatterbox 8th]
23.57/47.28(23.71)/111.49(24.21)/1:36.36(24.89)1:48.98(12.62).

BC Juvy:[Nyquist winner] 23.49/47.62(24.13)/112.14(24.52)/137.26(25.12)/1:43.79(6.53).

BC Classic:{AP}23.99/47.50(23.51)/111.21(24.26)/1:35.47(24.60)/2:00.07.

So time wise Songbird pretty much ran equal to SW/CUR/IAC did in the Distaff......while setting quicker fractions for the half/3/4's.
In the Distaff the 3 pacemakers all finished up the track.....SW/CUR benefitted from speed duel fractions that were slower then what Songbird set and drew out with.........all things considered,Songbird's Juvy was better than the Distaff.

Nyquist,the 2016 Kentucky Derby winner ran a much slower race up/down than Songbird......a full second+ slower than Songbird.

Now factor in a bigger,stronger....... undefeated in 7 Graded Stakes this year Songbird and I strongly suggest the word slower should never be used in the same sentence as Songbird.
Can Songbird get beat Friday?...........of course she can.
But it won't have a thing to do with her "numbers" or her "slower" way of going.

I am confident in saying this is among the worst posts in the history of this message board.

[Alabama Stakes]

Elaborate.... you opened the clam

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

I am confident in saying this is among the worst posts in the history of this message board.

Apparently you forgot smooth operator and that insane vet from ky. You also forgot about pg1985.

[taxicab]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

I am confident in saying this is among the worst posts in the history of this message board.

I didn't realize you were so sensitive.
I apologize for making you cry.

[Dunbar]

Here are the best current odds on the Distaff from 2 offshore books, 5Dimes and Bookmaker: (as of 9:45amEST)

Songbird 1.05 to 1, 5D
Lando'Sea 100-1, 5D
Curalina 20-1, 5D
CoronaD'Inca 80.5-1, Bookmaker
StellarWind 3.2-1, Bookmaker
ForeverUnb'd 21-1, Bookmaker
I'mChatterbox 21-1, Bookmaker
Beholder 3.85-1, 5D

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Dunbar

Here are the best current odds on the Distaff from 2 offshore books, 5Dimes and Bookmaker: (as of 9:45amEST)

Songbird 1.05 to 1, 5D
Lando'Sea 100-1, 5D
Curalina 20-1, 5D
CoronaD'Inca 80.5-1, Bookmaker
StellarWind 3.2-1, Bookmaker
ForeverUnb'd 21-1, Bookmaker
I'mChatterbox 21-1, Bookmaker
Beholder 3.85-1, 5D

Those are US Odds right if not is it a typo on Songbird?

[Dunbar]

Originally Posted by jms62

Those are US Odds right if not is it a typo on Songbird?

Yes, US odds. It was actually +105. 5Dimes has taken down its line for today's BC races (still has matchups, though)

Here are Bookmaker's current odds:

TO WIN LONGINES BREEDERS' CUP DISTAFF - RACE 9
Songbird ODDS
+105
Land Over Sea
+8050
Curalina
+1699
Corona Del Inca (ARG)
+8050
Stellar Wind
+287
Forever Unbrindled
+2185
I'm a Chatterbox
+2185
Beholder
+369