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Old 10-26-2016, 09:53 AM
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100-1 feels fair to me. I give her almost no chance to win.
it's ignorant comments like this......................that keep me away from here, hats off. Every thread you touch is a lightning rod for controversy, just lob the grenade and run the other way.

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Old 10-26-2016, 10:37 AM
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it's ignorant comments like this......................that keep me away from here, hats off. Every thread you touch is a lightning rod for controversy, just lob the grenade and run the other way.

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Beholder, Unbridled Forever and Stellar Wind are all better/faster. What did I say that was ignorant? If Songbird is 3-1 or 7-2 I'll bet huge against her in all pools. I dont think she can win this race.
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Old 10-26-2016, 10:51 AM
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Beholder, Unbridled Forever and Stellar Wind are all better/faster. What did I say that was ignorant? If Songbird is 3-1 or 7-2 I'll bet huge against her in all pools. I dont think she can win this race.
You know this is as dumb a comment as Anthony Stabile saying she is the greatest filly of all time on Twitter. Is there a morsel of levity in you? She is clearly extraordinary and while I get you like others as do I, she clearly shouldn't be beyond 5/2 in anyone's way of thinking. We all from time to time loathe 2/1 shots and feel they are WAY over rated but in are brains we know they are not 100/1 shots without a reasonable chance. To just suggest so about a multiple grade 1 filly that has shipped throughout country, never been less the 3.5 lengths in front of her G1 competition at the best circuits in the states is 100/1 is just awful to post
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Old 10-26-2016, 09:40 PM
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You know this is as dumb a comment as Anthony Stabile saying she is the greatest filly of all time on Twitter. Is there a morsel of levity in you? She is clearly extraordinary and while I get you like others as do I, she clearly shouldn't be beyond 5/2 in anyone's way of thinking. We all from time to time loathe 2/1 shots and feel they are WAY over rated but in are brains we know they are not 100/1 shots without a reasonable chance. To just suggest so about a multiple grade 1 filly that has shipped throughout country, never been less the 3.5 lengths in front of her G1 competition at the best circuits in the states is 100/1 is just awful to post
I can't believe I'm doing this....

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Old 10-27-2016, 08:45 AM
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Here are some BCC odds from 5Dimes:
"-130" means you put up $130 to win $100. (which is a little worse than 4-5)
"+280" means you get 2.8-1.

In the 1st 3 odds, you'd get your money back if your horse doesn't start, and it's also no bet if either CC or Arrogate doesn't start.

In the rest of the odds, it's a bet no matter who starts.

California Chrome & Arrogate must run for action
Sat 11/5 101 California Chrome wins Classic
-130
8:35PM 102 Field wins Classic
-110

Arrogate & California Chrome must run for action
Sat 11/5 103 Arrogate wins Classic
+280
8:35PM 104 Field wins Classic
-400

Frosted & California Chrome must run for action
Sat 11/5 105 Frosted wins Classic
+800
8:35PM 106 Field wins Classic
-1700

Breeders' Cup Classic - Antepost Winner
all horses have action regardless if selected horse runs
Sat 11/5 201 California Chrome wins Classic
-120

all horses have action regardless if selected horse runs
Sat 11/5 203 Arrogate wins Classic
+300

all horses have action regardless if selected horse runs
Sat 11/5 205 Frosted wins Classic
+1000


Melatonin 25-1
Shaman Ghost 22-1
Nyquist 30-1
Hopportunity 33-1
Gun Runner 26-1
Effinex 35-1
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Old 10-27-2016, 09:18 PM
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I wrote, "In the 1st 3 odds, you'd get your money back if your horse doesn't start, and it's also no bet if either CC or Arrogate doesn't start." That's not correct for the bet on Frosted at +800. It doesn't matter if Arrogate starts or not.
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Nyquist is out.....Privman tweeted he was injured

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You know this is as dumb a comment as Anthony Stabile saying she is the greatest filly of all time on Twitter. Is there a morsel of levity in you? She is clearly extraordinary and while I get you like others as do I, she clearly shouldn't be beyond 5/2 in anyone's way of thinking. We all from time to time loathe 2/1 shots and feel they are WAY over rated but in are brains we know they are not 100/1 shots without a reasonable chance. To just suggest so about a multiple grade 1 filly that has shipped throughout country, never been less the 3.5 lengths in front of her G1 competition at the best circuits in the states is 100/1 is just awful to post
Little bit of a hypocrite, no?? Your bashing her on twitter saying she is no better then 5th. Pretty much exactly what I said.....
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Little bit of a hypocrite, no?? Your bashing her on twitter saying she is no better then 5th. Pretty much exactly what I said.....
Like I said I wouldn't bet her ever but if you think I don't KNOW that she is 11 for 11 and extraordinary you are mistaken. While Beyer, Serling , Davidowitz, Hogan and others want to look elsewhere they aren't calling her a rank outsider. Even Beyer(DRF Webcast) who thinks as I that she has a good chance to be off the board wouldn't suggest she is a hopeless 100/1 shot, he just knows that several in the field have run MUCH faster on multiple occasions, he doesn't think she is without merit.
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Old 11-01-2016, 06:58 PM
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Like I said I wouldn't bet her ever but if you think I don't KNOW that she is 11 for 11 and extraordinary you are mistaken. While Beyer, Serling , Davidowitz, Hogan and others want to look elsewhere they aren't calling her a rank outsider. Even Beyer(DRF Webcast) who thinks as I that she has a good chance to be off the board wouldn't suggest she is a hopeless 100/1 shot, he just knows that several in the field have run MUCH faster on multiple occasions, he doesn't think she is without merit.
Bro I think your a hypocrite and love the attention. She's 5th or 6th best. That sounds like a rank outsider to me.
You guys came at me pretty hard in this thread and I said nothing different then 5 or 6 well respected guys. Because its me you guys attack. Especially BT who as far as I'm concerned is a total coward. I'm talking races giving opinions. He attacks and disappears. He said I'm why he stays away, judging by his posts we are better without him.
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Old 11-01-2016, 08:08 PM
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Bro I think your a hypocrite and love the attention. She's 5th or 6th best. That sounds like a rank outsider to me.
You guys came at me pretty hard in this thread and I said nothing different then 5 or 6 well respected guys. Because its me you guys attack. Especially BT who as far as I'm concerned is a total coward. I'm talking races giving opinions. He attacks and disappears. He said I'm why he stays away, judging by his posts we are better without him.
This is the kind of crap Joey we all talk about. You come in a ruin every thread. We don't need 20 posts stating you don't like songbird. We get it she's not a baffert horse so she sucks. Some of us are interested in hearing updates and real opinions. BT is one of the best posters in here and it's a shame he doesn't post on here more but who can blame him. Time to grow up.
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Bro I think your a hypocrite and love the attention. She's 5th or 6th best. That sounds like a rank outsider to me.
You guys came at me pretty hard in this thread and I said nothing different then 5 or 6 well respected guys. Because its me you guys attack. Especially BT who as far as I'm concerned is a total coward. I'm talking races giving opinions. He attacks and disappears. He said I'm why he stays away, judging by his posts we are better without him.
You're not talking races and giving opinions, you're spouting off ignorant comments like songbird should be 100-1 or suggesting someone is voting for Hillary in a .50 pk3 breeders cup thread. I'm not a coward because I replied, that's what you wanted, It's a waste of time to even indulge you with responses, yet here i am trying to explain to you why nobody here likes you, from your mythical wagers, to your "past posting", deleting losing wagers posted, mistyped numbers, endless excuses for your losses, "that cost me 5 figures" losers, that horse was much the best, im the unluckiest person, etc. etc. etc., you make it incredibly hard to root for you with your wagers and in life.
So in short, I'm not a coward I'm just holding you accountable for the comments you make.

And if you can find me 3 analyst who suggest songbird should be 100-1, you will never hear another thing from me again....but if you can't, then you're going to continue to get response like this, from me.


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Old 11-01-2016, 10:58 PM
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Wow what great a wonderful field of fillies and mares. Should be a really exciting race. One thing for sure, if Songbird wins, she'll have proved her greatness vs the best. There are 6 hosses in the race who should be favorite every time they run. If stellar wind runs at Songbird early and really hard, curalina gonna be difficult to handle at some point. I just think this filly looks so perfect she must be that special one like Go For Wand was.
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Old 11-02-2016, 01:53 AM
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Wow what great a wonderful field of fillies and mares. Should be a really exciting race. One thing for sure, if Songbird wins, she'll have proved her greatness vs the best. There are 6 hosses in the race who should be favorite every time they run. If stellar wind runs at Songbird early and really hard, curalina gonna be difficult to handle at some point. I just think this filly looks so perfect she must be that special one like Go For Wand was.
I like songbird, despite thinking she's somewhat over hyped, but to compare her to go for wand is nutty.
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Old 11-02-2016, 06:30 PM
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Is a distaff classic double being offered? $1 minimum?
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Is a distaff classic double being offered? $1 minimum?
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