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Old 10-21-2016, 09:10 AM
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Arrogate is such a wild card.
he is a huge beast , and Baffert speaks about his long stride and how he needs all 10f...

he created quite a ruckus at Saratoga, getting the canoe painted his way
setting records that were in place for decades breaking marks even the best in the historical game have not matched.

will ARROGATE be another Zito trained,BELLAMY ROAD (winning the Wood Memorial by a record 17 1/2 lengths in stakes-record time of 1:47.16 – also equaling the 1 1/8-mile track record at Aqueduct.)

As Andy Beyer typed :
Bellamy Road could very well be in a class by himself.
Owner George Steinbrenner's colt has raced twice this year (2005), winning an allowance race at Gulfstream Park by nearly 16 lengths and the Wood Memorial Stakes by 17 1/2 , earning a stratospheric Beyer Speed Figure of 120, the best ever recorded in a prep race for the Derby. (but then again, that was the milkshake era) This one performance suggested that Bellamy Road might be another Secretariat, Affirmed or Seattle Slew.

2nd in the mid summers derby in 2005, that was all there was for Ballamy.

OR..

will Arrogate go on to better and bigger things.

I dunno ?

who does ?...
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Old 10-21-2016, 09:29 AM
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I know.
He jogs. I honestly and truly expect an improvement/move forward from the Travers. And when this happens even Chrome won't have a prayer.
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Old 10-21-2016, 09:38 AM
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I know.
He jogs. I honestly and truly expect an improvement/move forward from the Travers. And when this happens even Chrome won't have a prayer.

Don't count CC out, he is a fighter and won't give up easily.
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Old 10-21-2016, 09:53 AM
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ahhh...paradise..blow me for luck...i mean pair of dice
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Old 10-21-2016, 10:02 AM
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I know.
He jogs. I honestly and truly expect an improvement/move forward from the Travers. And when this happens even Chrome won't have a prayer.
You keep saying this over and over and Chrome keeps dusting you. When Chrome beats him into the ground do you promise to stop this?
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Old 10-21-2016, 12:09 PM
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Arrogate, his travers is better than any race chrome has run. If he can duplicate that race, it will be next to impossible for him to get beat. It's a huge if though.
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Old 10-21-2016, 12:31 PM
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Arrogate, his travers is better than any race chrome has run. If he can duplicate that race, it will be next to impossible for him to get beat. It's a huge if though.
I want to see him do that same race when he has to accelerate past a good horse rather than grinding on the front end and then skipping away.

He can do it but at 7/2...meh
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Old 10-21-2016, 12:34 PM
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I want to see him do that same race when he has to accelerate past a good horse rather than grinding on the front end and then skipping away.

He can do it but at 7/2...meh
7-2? Really?
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Old 10-21-2016, 12:43 PM
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7-2? Really?
odds as of 10/17:

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POST ODDS HORSE TRAINER JOCKEY
N/A +105 California Chrome A. Sherman Victor Espinoza
N/A +300 Arrogate B. Baffert Mike Smith
N/A +800 Frosted K. McLaughlin Joel Rosario
N/A +1600 Songbird M. d'Oro TBD
N/A +1800 Connect C. Brown Javier Castellano
N/A +1800 Dortmund B. Baffert TBD
N/A +2000 Melatonin D. Hofmans Joseph Talamo
N/A +2000 Shaman Ghost J. Jerkens Javier Castellano
N/A +2000 Nyquist D. O'Neill Mario Gutierrez
N/A +2500 Beholder R. Mandella TBD

Sportsbook.

California Chrome 1/1
Arrogate 7/2
Melatonin 10/1
Frosted 15/1
Exaggerator 18/1
Connect 22/1
Dortmund 25/1
Gun Runner 25/1
Hoppertunity 25/1
Nyquist 25/1
Songbird 25/1
American Freedom 30/1
Beholder 30/1
Shaman Ghost 30/1
Mubtaahij 35/1
Destin 40/1
Effinex 40/1
Mohaymen 40/1
Suddenbreakingnews 45/1
Bradester 50/1
Brodys Cause 50/1
Creator 50/1
Cupid 50/1
Donworth 50/1
Firing Line 50/1
Gift Box 50/1
Governor Malibu 50/1
Hit It A Bomb 50/1
Imperative 50/1
Keen Ice 50/1
Laoban 50/1
Long Island Sound 50/1
Mor Spirit 50/1
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