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Old 10-12-2016, 06:22 PM
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Breeders' Cup Distaff, $2 million, 9f, F&M-3+

Songbird (Jerry Hollendorfer)
Beholder (Richard Mandella)
Stellar Wind (John Sadler)
Cavorting (Kiaran McLaughlin)
Curalina (Todd Pletcher) ~ F&M Sprint
I'm a Chatterbox (Larry Jones)
Forever Unbridled (Dallas Stewart)
Corona Del Inca (Guillermo Frenkel Santillan)
That is a beautiful thing. Is it the best Distaff field ever?
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Old 10-12-2016, 06:55 PM
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That is a beautiful thing. Is it the best Distaff field ever?
1988:
Personal Ensign: Hempstead, Shuvee, Whitney, Maskette, Beldame
Winning Colors: Santa Anita Oaks, Santa Anita Derby, Kentucky Derby
Goodbye Halo: Las Virgenes, Kentucky Oaks, Mother Goose, CCA Oaks
Hail a Cab: Spinster
Sham Say: Ruffian
Classic Crown: Gazelle
Willa On The Move: Ashland
Epitome: 1987 Eclipse Champion 2yo Filly
Integra: A Gleam, Hawthorne
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Old 10-12-2016, 07:25 PM
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1988:
Personal Ensign: Hempstead, Shuvee, Whitney, Maskette, Beldame
Winning Colors: Santa Anita Oaks, Santa Anita Derby, Kentucky Derby
Goodbye Halo: Las Virgenes, Kentucky Oaks, Mother Goose, CCA Oaks
Hail a Cab: Spinster
Sham Say: Ruffian
Classic Crown: Gazelle
Willa On The Move: Ashland
Epitome: 1987 Eclipse Champion 2yo Filly
Integra: A Gleam, Hawthorne
I don't go back that far but I respect your opinion on the history based upon your prior postings here.
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Old 10-12-2016, 07:33 PM
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I don't go back that far but I respect your opinion on the history based upon your prior postings here.
The 1999 and 1993 runnings were strong, too. As was the 2008, though it was run on a synthetic course. Actually, the race is usually pretty strong. Last year's race ironically seemed very mediocre.

That said, if the field listed here would be the one to ultimately start, I think it would be the only time that each Distaff entrant had a Grade or Group 1 win to their credit in the same year.
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Old 10-12-2016, 08:03 PM
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One of the big ones ain't gonna make it. My prediction is Songbird.
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Old 10-13-2016, 10:34 AM
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One of the big ones ain't gonna make it. My prediction is Songbird.
Cavorting

Cavorting out of Breeders' Cup; likely to be retired

Three-time Grade 1 winning filly Cavorting has bruising of the cannon bones and will not run in the Breeders' Cup Distaff, trainer Kiaran McLaughlin said Thursday.

McLaughlin said he expects the filly will be retired by her owners, Stonestreet Stable.

"This might be the best filly I ever trained so it's hard to make this announcement," McLaughlin said.

Cavorting, a daughter of Bernardini, was pointing to the BC Distaff coming off wins in the Grade 1 Personal Ensign and Grade 1 Ogden Phipps. At 3, she won the Grade 1 Test.

Cavorting retires with a record of 8-1-1 from 13 lifetime starts and career earnings of $2,063,000.
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Old 10-13-2016, 10:41 AM
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Was there an excuse given as to why she didn't start in either the Beldame or the Spinster?
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Old 10-13-2016, 01:08 PM
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Cavorting

Cavorting out of Breeders' Cup; likely to be retired

Three-time Grade 1 winning filly Cavorting has bruising of the cannon bones and will not run in the Breeders' Cup Distaff, trainer Kiaran McLaughlin said Thursday.

McLaughlin said he expects the filly will be retired by her owners, Stonestreet Stable.

"This might be the best filly I ever trained so it's hard to make this announcement," McLaughlin said.

Cavorting, a daughter of Bernardini, was pointing to the BC Distaff coming off wins in the Grade 1 Personal Ensign and Grade 1 Ogden Phipps. At 3, she won the Grade 1 Test.

Cavorting retires with a record of 8-1-1 from 13 lifetime starts and career earnings of $2,063,000.
I wonder if will get the she retired sound and always raced sound statement.

I am not a vet but I wonder if Bone Bruising or alleged bone bruising can heal with 120 days of RR? Imagine if one of the best fillies Kiaran ever trained if not the best was permitted to recoup and come back as a mare?
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Old 10-13-2016, 11:37 AM
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One of the big ones ain't gonna make it. My prediction is Songbird.
She could obviously get hurt, but otherwise.. Why?
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Old 10-13-2016, 08:24 PM
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She could obviously get hurt, but otherwise.. Why?
Just me being a pessimist and seeing too many phantom injuries in the past when the competition comes up this tough. Someone has to back out of this deal...just seems too good to be true.
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Old 10-24-2016, 03:25 PM
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One of the big ones ain't gonna make it. My prediction is Songbird.
How big a favorite will Sobgbird be inThe Distaff ? 8-5 ?
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Old 10-25-2016, 10:06 AM
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How big a favorite will Sobgbird be inThe Distaff ? 8-5 ?
hmmmm, maybe not too far off but her figures are lower than the older horses and I see her being a popular pick against, could see 2/1 on both her and beholder with stellar wind maybe 5/2.
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Old 10-25-2016, 10:34 AM
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How big a favorite will Sobgbird be inThe Distaff ? 8-5 ?
Probably a good guess. I'm glad the big 3 all look like they are gonna make it. I'll likely be on Beholder, depending on odds.
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Old 10-26-2016, 05:49 AM
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How big a favorite will Sobgbird be inThe Distaff ? 8-5 ?
If the Big 3 all go, I don't think Songbird will be below 2-1. Gorgeous or not, her best BSF is 6 lengths behind the race Beholder and Stellar Wind ran Oct 1. Yeah, Songbird could have run faster if pressed, but 6 lengths faster? If Songbird goes off at 8-5, I'll be all over B or SW or both.
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