Weekend Stakes Beyers

[Alabama Stakes]

You'll never get those guys to admit they were wrong about ZENYATTA . They still think easy goer was better than Sunday Silence and that Alydar was better than Affirmed. When Songbird runs away in the distaff in fast time, they will be saying, well she only did it once.

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes

You'll never get those guys to admit they were wrong about ZENYATTA .

To be fair, losing to Blame, a second tier track stalwart, was pretty weak no matter how fast the Beyer was.

They still think easy goer was better than Sunday Silence

Neither could beat Criminal Type.

When Songbird runs away in the distaff in fast time, they will be saying, well she only did it once.

Songbird still has time to mature (e.g., California Chrome, Tepin), and be faster because of that, rather than not be challenged enough by her peers like some grade school prodigy having to take courses at UCLA to keep interested in schoolwork.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes

You'll never get those guys to admit they were wrong about ZENYATTA

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Why would you have them admit they are wrong when they aren't? You might as well have them admit to being five year old girls.

Zenyatta is the single most overrated horse I've seen in my thirtyish years watching.

Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes

They still think easy goer was better than Sunday Silence.

Sunday Silence bested EG 3-1 but one of those (the Preakness) could easily have gone the other way. It is hardly definitive that either was better than the other. By the way, I'd much rather have PVal as a rider than Pat Day.

Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes

When Songbird runs away in the distaff in fast time, they will be saying, well she only did it once.

Historically speaking, Beholder is hardly one of the greats, so your scenario could easily happen. The Distaff is the race this year that I'd be least surprised to see a major upset in. I think the top runners in there are all vulnerable.

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

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Why would you have them admit they are wrong when they aren't? You might as well have them admit to being five year old girls.

Zenyatta is the single most overrated horse I've seen in my thirtyish years watching.




Sunday Silence bested EG 3-1 but one of those (the Preakness) could easily have gone the other way. It is hardly definitive that either was better than the other. By the way, I'd much rather have PVal as a rider than Pat Day.




Historically speaking, Beholder is hardly one of the greats, so your scenario could easily happen. The Distaff is the race this year that I'd be least surprised to see a major upset in. I think the top runners in there are all vulnerable.

I thought you had a gf?


How is Stellar Wind vulnerable?

[King Glorious]

Curious revisit this subject. My opinion is that when asked to go all out, Songbird went faster than she ever has. Just wasn't good enough to beat Beholder.

Maybe the discussion before should have been not that they will run faster if asked but rather, if allowed to.