Weekend Stakes Beyers

[King Glorious]

I'm not the expert you guys are but I have seen some horses over the years that go ballad out every time and others that do enough to win. I certainly won't say for a fact that Songbird would run faster if required to because we don't know. It's just my belief that if it was needed, she has more to offer. I stopped using Beyer numbers years ago so I couldn't tell how she compares on that level to others of the past. It's also clear that her competition is garbage and hasn't pushed her to have to run faster. Can't wait til the Distaff to get more answers. My money is on her to win.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

I'm not the expert you guys are but I have seen some horses over the years that go ballad out every time and others that do enough to win. I certainly won't say for a fact that Songbird would run faster if required to because we don't know. It's just my belief that if it was needed, she has more to offer. I stopped using Beyer numbers years ago so I couldn't tell how she compares on that level to others of the past. It's also clear that her competition is garbage and hasn't pushed her to have to run faster. Can't wait til the Distaff to get more answers. My money is on her to win.

These mysterious horses that run just fast enough to win are known as unicorns.

They don't exist outside of the minds of people that want horses they like to be faster than they actually are.

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

These mysterious horses that run just fast enough to win are known as unicorns.

They don't exist outside of the minds of people that want horses they like to be faster than they actually are.

Ok. I wish I was allowed to debate or disagree with you but I learned my lesson before.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

Ok. I wish I was allowed to debate or disagree with you but I learned my lesson before.

I love the victim card.

If you want to debate, give some evidence.

[Alabama Stakes]

Oh

[RHT2004]

Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes

When calculating ROI .....
Why is one allowed to skip the jump races ?
I'm thinking all races run should be included. Isn't it kind of like excluding maiden claiming races ?
Maybe instead of giving up without a fight, looking at the jumpers from different angles , or even fading yourself, might have been a better way to go about it. The old " I can't pick them so I 'm gonna take my ball and go home" is lame.
Ted Williams played both ends of a doubleheader, choosing not to sit and maintain his .400 avg, finishing at .406.
Sitting out yet another tough Sunday card to preserve that pos ROI ?
I guess having 2 days off instead of one doesn't factor in this success . Maybe the strain of an extra card per week could have taken its toll later in the meet and you might not have got there. When the ROI was lousy last year, how did you put it ? Haters gotta hate ? Not "I stunk" right ?
Positive ROI should be expected, not some huge accomplishment , from someone getting paid to provide winners.
Pretty sure Byk would have a plus ROI anywhere he handicapped, and he does it as a labor of love.

Who cares and why bother posting this? Your literally obsessed with Steve. Its stalker like.

[Alabama Stakes]

Originally Posted by RHT2004

Who cares and why bother posting this? Your literally obsessed with Steve. Its stalker like.

Just bored, opening day at Santa and the boss releases the late pick 4. My other questions are answerable

[taxicab]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

I'm not the expert you guys are but I have seen some horses over the years that go ballad out every time and others that do enough to win. I certainly won't say for a fact that Songbird would run faster if required to because we don't know. It's just my belief that if it was needed, she has more to offer. I stopped using Beyer numbers years ago so I couldn't tell how she compares on that level to others of the past. It's also clear that her competition is garbage and hasn't pushed her to have to run faster. Can't wait til the Distaff to get more answers. My money is on her to win.

She's a flat out freak,nobody can get near her.
Every single time she runs.......the song remains the same.
She's plenty fast,there's no two ways around it.
There's a time and place for speed figs.......but the numbers aren't relevant with this Filly.
If the word fast is used as some kind of measuring stick with Songbird,then look no further than last years 2 Juvy dirt races on BC Saturday @ Keenland......Songbird ran 5 lengths faster than this years Kentucky Derby winner.
Keep an eye on Chad's nice Filly in the Beldame on Saturday......Go for Broke just ran a distant 2nd to Songbird,she might be decent at a price.