Desormeaux needs to be gone

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by helicopter11

You forget he is a HOF with multiple Ky Derby and BC wins. You bet on an 8 to 5 shot and he loses then say he must retire. Did you see his masterful ride in the second race? I bet you didnt. You see what you want to see. Carry on...

Again, the argument is because he has talent we're supposed to just condone all of his embarrassing antics. What does his ride on the horse in the 2nd (who, by the way, Kent moved early on and got away with it because the horse was an hour the best) have to do with him losing a race because he decided to style the last 1/16th instead of riding his horse out like is his job?

If this were literally any other jockey, I'd most likely be OK with just a warning. But the pattern of irresponsible behavior in his career putting other people in danger and stealing money by not trying is a disgrace to this game. Yet he's allowed to just keep on being who he is because sycophants like you think as long as someone has big wins on their resume they should be able to act however the hell they please with no repercussions.

How's that Greg Hardy jersey fitting?

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Again, the argument is because he has talent we're supposed to just condone all of his embarrassing antics. What does his ride on the horse in the 2nd (who, by the way, Kent moved early on and got away with it because the horse was an hour the best) have to do with him losing a race because he decided to style the last 1/16th instead of riding his horse out like is his job?

If this were literally any other jockey, I'd most likely be OK with just a warning. But the pattern of irresponsible behavior in his career putting other people in danger and stealing money by not trying is a disgrace to this game. Yet he's allowed to just keep on being who he is because sycophants like you think as long as someone has big wins on their resume they should be able to act however the hell they please with no repercussions.

How's that Greg Hardy jersey fitting?

It seems like you already made up your mind on Kent BEFORE that fourth race. I am acting as a neutral observer. Anything he does is going to be on your radar for comment.

Go Cowboys!

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by helicopter11

It seems like you already made up your mind on Kent BEFORE that fourth race. I am acting as a neutral observer. Anything he does is going to be on your radar for comment.

Go Cowboys!

Yeah, you seem real neutral when I bring up the litany of issues with him over the years and your only reaction is YA WHATEVER WINZZZ

Glad you think it's OK for him to show up drunk TIME AND TIME AGAIN in a profession where someone could die at any moment and for him to cost thousands of people money TIME AND TIME AGAIN because he doesn't feel like trying sometimes. Glad that's acceptable behavior to you.

[Arletta]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Yeah, you seem real neutral when I bring up the litany of issues with him over the years and your only reaction is YA WHATEVER WINZZZ

Glad you think it's OK for him to show up drunk TIME AND TIME AGAIN in a profession where someone could die at any moment and for him to cost thousands of people money TIME AND TIME AGAIN because he doesn't feel like trying sometimes. Glad that's acceptable behavior to you.

Was he drunk yesterday?

[Kasept]

DMR: Stewards vote 2-1 for no fine or suspension for Desormeaux
Jay Privman , Del Mar , 2015-11-08 - DRF Live Posted : 5hrs 13mins ago

Jockey Kent Desormeaux will not be fined nor suspended for his ride aboard in Saturday's fourth race, in which favored WHAT A VIEW was caught right on the wire with Desormeaux, to some observers, appearing to stop riding aggressively before the finish and then rising in the saddle as the horses got to the finish.

In a majority decision, Del Mar stewards Kim Sawyer and Tom Ward voted for no penalty, while steward Scott Chaney dissented, believing a penalty was warranted. They made their opinions known on Sunday afternoon after meeting with Desormeaux in the morning.

"We had Kent in, went over the video extensively, and did not feel there was enough evidence on the video" to penalize, said Ward, who said he believed the pan shot of the race showed What A View trying to pull himself up at the sixteenth pole after making the lead.

Sawyer agreed there should be no sanction, saying she believed Desormeaux's testimony that What A View was trying to "get out."

"He felt he was doing all he could," Sawyer said.

Sawyer said Desormeaux said that, in hindsight, he wished he had hit What A View once left-handed.

Sawyer also said Desormeaux was reminded about his past transgressions in matters such as this. He has been cited going back more than 20 years for not riding to the finish.

Chaney did not agree with his colleagues. "You win some, you lose some," he said.

Chaney said that the minutes filed to the California Horse Racing Board would reflect the different opinions of the stewards on this incident.

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by Kasept

DMR: Stewards vote 2-1 for no fine or suspension for Desormeaux
Jay Privman , Del Mar , 2015-11-08 - DRF Live Posted : 5hrs 13mins ago

Jockey Kent Desormeaux will not be fined nor suspended for his ride aboard in Saturday's fourth race, in which favored WHAT A VIEW was caught right on the wire with Desormeaux, to some observers, appearing to stop riding aggressively before the finish and then rising in the saddle as the horses got to the finish.

In a majority decision, Del Mar stewards Kim Sawyer and Tom Ward voted for no penalty, while steward Scott Chaney dissented, believing a penalty was warranted. They made their opinions known on Sunday afternoon after meeting with Desormeaux in the morning.

"We had Kent in, went over the video extensively, and did not feel there was enough evidence on the video" to penalize, said Ward, who said he believed the pan shot of the race showed What A View trying to pull himself up at the sixteenth pole after making the lead.

Sawyer agreed there should be no sanction, saying she believed Desormeaux's testimony that What A View was trying to "get out."

"He felt he was doing all he could," Sawyer said.

Sawyer said Desormeaux said that, in hindsight, he wished he had hit What A View once left-handed.

Sawyer also said Desormeaux was reminded about his past transgressions in matters such as this. He has been cited going back more than 20 years for not riding to the finish.

Chaney did not agree with his colleagues. "You win some, you lose some," he said.

Chaney said that the minutes filed to the California Horse Racing Board would reflect the different opinions of the stewards on this incident.

Always good to see stewards protecting the bettors.

[10 pnt move up]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

Always good to see stewards protecting the bettors.

ahhh, you gotta take care of your own so to speak. Thats just the way it works.

If you bet on a guy like KD, with his issues and his past, do you still have the right to be upset?

I wouldnt trust any of these stewards.

[casp0555]

Originally Posted by Kasept

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Chaney did not agree with his colleagues. "You win some, you lose some," he said.

I swear this will be the epitaph on my grave stone

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Arletta

Was he drunk yesterday?

I think that was the part about not trying.
hall of fame is all well and good, but every ride should be done professionally.
Past cites for not finishing, he didnt finish this race.

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Yeah, you seem real neutral when I bring up the litany of issues with him over the years and your only reaction is YA WHATEVER WINZZZ

Glad you think it's OK for him to show up drunk TIME AND TIME AGAIN in a profession where someone could die at any moment and for him to cost thousands of people money TIME AND TIME AGAIN because he doesn't feel like trying sometimes. Glad that's acceptable behavior to you.

He wasnt drunk riding that horse but you seem to think he is always. Any past issues with alcoholism he has had, he has been dealt with and if he does it again, he should be punished.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by helicopter11

He wasnt drunk riding that horse but you seem to think he is always. Any past issues with alcoholism he has had, he has been dealt with and if he does it again, he should be punished.

Never said that. I said he stopped trying on a horse with hundreds of thousands of dollars on it and this is just the latest in a long string of incidents with him putting people in danger and/or costing people money. It is plainly unacceptable to me and I don't understand how anyone with any skin in this game can be OK with it.

[Arletta]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Never said that. I said he stopped trying on a horse with hundreds of thousands of dollars on it and this is just the latest in a long string of incidents with him putting people in danger and/or costing people money. It is plainly unacceptable to me and I don't understand how anyone with any skin in this game can be OK with it.

Unfortunately, there are many situations in this game that people are "o.k with" that shouldn't be. I guess in this case, only Kim and Tim were. Right or wrong, I'm sure this will blow over (if it hasn't already) and it will be business as usual in a day or two.