I'm sure this was not the intention of our founding fathers

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by jms62

1. Did our founding fathers intend for this to be such a lucrative career path?
2. Who do these people "represent"? Certainly not those whose income has stagnated and are in danger of their job being shipped overseas or replaced by an H1B with less of a skill set.


It looks like there is a ton of money to be made in making the rules of the game.

http://ballotpedia.org/Net_worth_of_...epresentatives

several years ago, i posted a link on here to an article about what group made money during the huge economic downturn caused by the banking and finance industry scandal.
obviously it wasn't the poor, or middle class. but the rich didn't benefit either. but one group did...
congress.
i know just recently they discussed changing their insider info rules...yeah, the fox guarding the hen house again.
no one has things loaded more in their favor than our elected representatives. incumbents pretty much are assured a win. they can stay for a lifetime, and make a ton of money.
note also that they 'snuck in' an amendment to the most recent budget, increasing 10fold the amount of money they could accept. they aren't even trying really to be clever anymore.

[timmgirvan]

Congress really sucks.........and I really have no idea what to do about it!

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

Congress really sucks.........and I really have no idea what to do about it!

Quit voting for the incumbents, and get everyone else to do the same.
get your state to do what az did, and cali is doing with how their districts are drawn up, thus avoiding getrymandering. It was a great scotus ruling, all the states should take that gift given and do something with it.

[timmgirvan]

[quote=Danzig;1033684]Quit voting for the incumbents, and get everyone else to do the same.
get your state to do what az did, and cali is doing with how their districts are drawn up, thus avoiding getrymandering. It was a great scotus ruling, all the states should take that gift given and do something

We would be long since dead by the time that wave swept the land.....silly me...I was hoping for something in my lifetime!

[jms62]

[quote=timmgirvan;1033687]

Originally Posted by Danzig

Quit voting for the incumbents, and get everyone else to do the same.
get your state to do what az did, and cali is doing with how their districts are drawn up, thus avoiding getrymandering. It was a great scotus ruling, all the states should take that gift given and do something

We would be long since dead by the time that wave swept the land.....silly me...I was hoping for something in my lifetime!

Looks like they and those that own them have checkmated the system. From here we devolve into a third world where the victims will be villanized by those owning the media. But the flames will continue to be fanned for faux fight between the left and right ; white and black because we the people are not deep thinking enough to think through the headlines.

[Danzig]

[quote=timmgirvan;1033687]

Originally Posted by Danzig

Quit voting for the incumbents, and get everyone else to do the same.
get your state to do what az did, and cali is doing with how their districts are drawn up, thus avoiding getrymandering. It was a great scotus ruling, all the states should take that gift given and do something

We would be long since dead by the time that wave swept the land.....silly me...I was hoping for something in my lifetime!

I am too.

[Danzig]

I had the good fortune to be reminded of this wonderful writing by the father of our constitution. Theres an article about the gentleman from virginia, wondering why he has no memorial...i disagree, our constitution is a great memorial to a great statesman. At any rate, please read this paper by james madison:

http://press-pubs.uchicago.edu/found...ligions43.html

I think paragraph 4 is especially helpful in the current discussion regarding ssm and the assertions by some that people should be granted leave to discriminate due to their sincerely held religious beliefs (the discussion regarding this particular sin being their sole, sudden focus regarding marriagability is a whole other subject)....the specific part is about a third of the way down, where the sentence begins 'whilst we assert for ourselves....'
paragraph 8 also.....heck, a lot of it applies to so much regarding this subject of religion and its being foisted on us in the public square