American Pharoah... what's next for our new Champion? (The Haskell)

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by freddymo

His BSF's are a function of math and science not creative license or subjective opinion. I agree as do some other prominent fig makers that the Beyer's methodology in routes seems to be declining in routes, I dont begin to understand why he is of opinion horses around the country save GP are getting slower. I dont know. I do know Andy Beyer knows WAY more about horses and racing then I do in fact probably more then everyone but a select few. He like all of us gets it wrong in a sport that is incredibly humbling, that hardily mitigates his brilliance as a capper and historian of the sport.

Do I think Coach Inge would have been competitive in the Belmont saturday? Not a chance but what do I know

I should clarify that from my perspective, his numbers seem a lot less tinkered with and/or biased with mid to low level racing. They are frequently fishy with the highest levels of racing.

I think they adjust these figures if they don't like what the numbers say.

You may be right about him knowing more than you, but keep in mind, he didn't really even invent the speed figures that are named for him. Also, it's often useful to question those that allegedly know more than you.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

I should clarify that from my perspective, his numbers seem a lot less tinkered with and/or biased with mid to low level racing. They are frequently fishy with the highest levels of racing.

I think they adjust these figures if they don't like what the numbers say.

You may be right about him knowing more than you, but keep in mind, he didn't really even invent the speed figures that are named for him. Also, it's often useful to question those that allegedly know more than you.

Look I was right about the horse and Doug And Beyer were dead wrong so what they both have a light years better opinion then all but a few. I have followed the sport religiously for 3.5 decades, he is a once in a generation type. I suspected it in the Rebel, others viewed the race as just a public workout. Not sure it means a darn bit what Andy Beyers speed fig was and I imagine Beyer knows that full well. Make no mistake his opinion and perspective is world class. The speed figure is completely irrelevant, save folks using it to measure the horses last race time wise vs. Coach Inge.

[freddymo]

Next race Haskell per Zayat this morning. That will be a blast