15 Reasons why AP can't win The Crown

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

Freddy, it's as significant that he was a 2YO champ as it is that he has a short tail. Who cares? Last year's 2YOs were largely a joke with their abbreviated campaigns. Add to it that the widespread belief was that AP would have won the Juvenile, regardless of the negative pace setup he would have faced, because a horse he beat in the prep ended up winning it.

You left out the part about AP winning the juvenile because he is much better than those that ran, the beloved Upstart included.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

You left out the part about AP winning the juvenile because he is much better than those that ran, the beloved Upstart included.

Upstart has only run 1 poor race in his life and its impossible to know if AP would have won Juvy. Upstart was as good as any 3 year old up to the derby IF you simply evaluate what they do on race day. What's the difference I wonder if we see him again anytime soon if at all. Given his trainer I think he has done enough but I certainly hope he comes back he is a really good colt. I would like him better then any horse save frosted in Belmont.

[FATPIANO]

I am just saying that if he wins (he will not) I would miss hearing about the one's from 1979 to the present that lost, do you ever hear about the one's from Citation to Secretariat? I would miss reliving The Bid, Easy Goer,Smarty etc.

[Dunbar]

Originally Posted by Travis Stone

I don't see as many of those, and even then, they sound more like horseplayers/handicappers than haters.

I guess I was thinking of these: (with emphasis added)

Originally Posted by FATPIANO

I am just saying that if he wins (he will not) I would miss hearing about the one's from 1979 to the present that lost, do you ever hear about the one's from Citation to Secretariat? I would miss reliving The Bid, Easy Goer,Smarty etc.

Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes

Look at the Bids pp's . If he couldn't , how can this hoss?
No way he wins 4 grade I races in 8weeks. The bottom that is so necesssy to win the first 2 jewels is a hinderance in the Belmont . Fresher legs rule the day. He will be dogged like he hasn't been thus far and in the end will succumb to the pressure and the distance will get to him at the 3/16 pole . He will then falter and be off the board. One of those cases where I'll get huge against a hoss that I'll be rooting for. If he wins , he is quite deserving. But it's not gonna happen.

But maybe I'm over-reacting. Alabama Stakes does allow for "If he wins..."

[Travis Stone]

Originally Posted by Dunbar

I guess I was thinking of these: (with emphasis added)

But maybe I'm over-reacting. Alabama Stakes does allow for "If he wins..."

I was speaking in more general terms (beyond message board, Twitter etc.), but funny... yeah, this dead week pre-Belmont brings the best out in all of us!

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

You left out the part about AP winning the juvenile because he is much better than those that ran, the beloved Upstart included.

You left out the part about how adverse pace scenarios/race dynamics present the easiest way for superior horses to be beaten in a given race.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

You left out the part about how adverse pace scenarios/race dynamics present the easiest way for superior horses to be beaten in a given race.

I left it out intentionally because it seems pretty evident he can go at his own pace.

Keep up the good fight though.