2015: American Pharoah becomes 12th Triple Crown winner

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

No, it's really not.

It's completely backwards.

You should try your hand at stand up comedy.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

I'll explain.

The AP detractors are the ones throwing around excuses as to why AP keeps winning, often accusing his fans of doing just that as to why he might lose the Belmont.

The reality is that the detractors keep reaching for more and new absurdities, often contradicting their own earlier absurdities.

Heck, I've been accused of various things ranging from chest thumping, claiming credit for his success and even being somewhat the zealot.

The funny thing with that one is that, as we've discussed on Facebook, I'm not even convinced that AP is the best horse in this crop.

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

I'll explain.

The AP detractors are the ones throwing around excuses as to why AP keeps winning, often accusing his fans of doing just that as to why he might lose the Belmont.

The reality is that the detractors keep reaching for more and new absurdities, often contradicting their own earlier absurdities.

Heck, I've been accused of various things ranging from chest thumping, claiming credit for his success and even being somewhat the zealot.

The funny thing with that one is that, as we've discussed on Facebook, I'm not even convinced that AP is the best horse in this crop.

That didn't help. Sorry, I think you are reaching here.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

That didn't help. Sorry, I think you are reaching here.

That's fine. If everyone agreed with everyone about everything, the world would be even more messed up than it is.

I am right though

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

The AP detractors are the ones throwing around excuses as to why AP keeps winning, often accusing his fans of doing just that as to why he might lose the Belmont.

The reality is that the detractors keep reaching for more and new absurdities, often contradicting their own earlier absurdities.

Heck, I've been accused of various things ranging from chest thumping, claiming credit for his success and even being somewhat the zealot.

The funny thing with that one is that, as we've discussed on Facebook, I'm not even convinced that AP is the best horse in this crop.

Lots of tilting at windmills. Since the running of the Preakness, in both this thread and the "American Pharaoh with authority" thread there was at best a couple of comments about Dortmund being held back and Tale Of the Verve running second that might qualify as "detracting" from American Pharoah's Preakness performance. Otherwise, what we have been treated to is some paranoid ramblings about American Pharaoh's vulnerability to internet criticism, a rather oddly placed attack on D. Wayne Lukas (as if any number of other trainers, including American Pharoah's, couldn't be cast in the same light), and Freddy's weird appropriation of American Pharaoh for his beloved Phipps stable (sorry, dude, I know hopes were high with Orb).

Sadly, the only thing remotely related to actual events in horse racing in either thread is whether Materiality can rate or not.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

Lots of tilting at windmills. Since the running of the Preakness, in both this thread and the "American Pharaoh with authority" thread there was at best a couple of comments about Dortmund being held back and Tale Of the Verve running second that might qualify as "detracting" from American Pharoah's Preakness performance. Otherwise, what we have been treated to is some paranoid ramblings about American Pharaoh's vulnerability to internet criticism, a rather oddly placed attack on D. Wayne Lukas (as if any number of other trainers, including American Pharoah's, couldn't be cast in the same light), and Freddy's weird appropriation of American Pharaoh for his beloved Phipps stable (sorry, dude, I know hopes were high with Orb).

Sadly, the only thing remotely related to actual events in horse racing in either thread is whether Materiality can rate or not.

Yeah, I'm not really sure how my comment about ridiculous comments being thrown around about AP are paranoid ramblings.

My comments about Lukas were perfectly timed, as I was responding to that Somerset character refuting his/her belief that Lukas is a great trainer. They had nothing to do with AP at all. Did you miss the previous few posts about how great Lukas is, put forth by Somerset and Sightseek (mostly the former)??

I can't really be certain what Freddy's comments were about, but I'm pretty sure he wasn't appropriating AP for the Phipps stable. I believe he was just trying to say that if AP was a Phipps horse, he'd be getting a lot more Internet love than he has had thus far.

You really aren't making any sense at all.

[Indian Charlie]

I really don't see either Frosted or Materiality as a significant threat in the upcoming Belmont, but of the two, I have to believe the race sets up better for Materiality.

I don't know which of the two is better, nor does it matter to me, but right now, I think Frosted is still figuring things out and probably has more upside.

It just seems extremely unlikely he's going to win.

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

Yeah, I'm not really sure how my comment about ridiculous comments being thrown around about AP are paranoid ramblings.

Where are these ridiculous comments you speak of?

Facebook?

My comments about Lukas were perfectly timed, as I was responding to that Somerset character refuting his/her belief that Lukas is a great trainer. They had nothing to do with AP at all. Did you miss the previous few posts about how great Lukas is, put forth by Somerset and Sightseek (mostly the former)??

Perfectly timed? How so? Because Mr. Z. ran 5th in the Preakness? That's the time to bring up a rather vague story of a horse that broke down?

I saw comments lauding Baffert, too, but there was no mention of Tweebster or mysterious sudden deaths.

I can't really be certain what Freddy's comments were about, but I'm pretty sure he wasn't appropriating AP for the Phipps stable. I believe he was just trying to say that if AP was a Phipps horse, he'd be getting a lot more Internet love than he has had thus far.

Tongue-in-cheek. A softball lobbed at Freddy, who I presume is not sober at the moment.

Relax, American Pharaoh will be at least 2/5 in the Belmont.

You really aren't making any sense at all.

You've had a tough time "gauging" things recently.

It will probably pass after June 6 when you reveal to the world who the best 3yo in the crop is.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

Where are these ridiculous comments you speak of?




Tongue-in-cheek. A softball lobbed at Freddy, who I presume is not sober at the moment.

Relax, American Pharaoh will be at least 2/5 in the Belmont.

It was 8pm..sober left the building at 6pm