So who is the "wiseguy" horse this year?

[jms62]

Originally Posted by RHT2004

I have not heard a peep about anyone liking him at all.

El Kabier is very intriguing to me. It was obvious that his connections used the Wood to change his running style in anticipation of a pace meltdown. I hope to find room on my Super ticket for him. 2-3-4 would not surprise me.

[RHT2004]

Originally Posted by jms62

El Kabier is very intriguing to me. It was obvious that his connections used the Wood to change his running style in anticipation of a pace meltdown. I hope to find room on my Super ticket for him. 2-3-4 would not surprise me.

Im not saying I like or dislike him. Just that I have not heard any buzz anywhere about him. If you like him thats a good thing.
Does Borel still get over bet in this race just because?

[ninetoone]

Dortmund is going to be radically lower odds than Firing Line on Saturday...so to me, that would make Dortmund more of the wise guy horse than Firing Line....but maybe it's just me

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by ninetoone

Dortmund is going to be radically lower odds than Firing Line on Saturday...so to me, that would make Dortmund more of the wise guy horse than Firing Line....but maybe it's just me

The second choice in the race can't be a wiseguy horse. A wiseguy horse is an 'outside the box' entrant who people talk themselves into to try to beat the favorites.

[ninetoone]

I guess I consider a wiseguy horse to be a horse that is bet down to odds that aren't really justified based on hype, etc...I agree that most of the time it's not one of the favorites....but IMO it can be...(Dialed In, Fresian Fire, Sweetnorthernsaint) God knows I've taken the bait many times over the years.

[keithting]

I'm hearing whispers about Upstart....

[senator L]

I think it will be Frosted. I think he'll go off
lower than Firing Line 8 or 9 -1