Deepest Derby field in recent memory

[Kitan]

I don't think he seems slow. His Beyers are always improving and he has one of the highest BRIS Late Pace figs in the field. In fact, he's one of only five (possibly two more depending on the race later today, neither of which will be AP regardless of if he wins by the length of the stretch or not) that I can see winning. The rest would be surprising. I'll be using him, especially in cover multiples, but I'm not overly convinced by his actual talent, irrespective of numbers. His form outside of FG is just okay, and at FG he 1) didn't beat much, and 2) may just have loved the course. I was high on War Story prior to the La. Derby and backed him in futures expecting further progress, but that didn't happen. Based on that I can't see him factoring much, neither will Stanford. Keen Ice is a plodder and Tiznow RJ is a few cuts below. I don't wish bad will on anyone, but in a sense it wouldn't be the worst thing if he didn't run well in the Derby. To be in contention and ridden like that, in America's biggest race, would not be what racing needs in terms of spotlight. I wouldn't agree with the outcry or the notion that he could run as well when not being pushed so aggressively, but the media would have a field day.

[RHT2004]

Originally Posted by Kitan

I don't think he seems slow. His Beyers are always improving and he has one of the highest BRIS Late Pace figs in the field. In fact, he's one of only five (possibly two more depending on the race later today, neither of which will be AP regardless of if he wins by the length of the stretch or not) that I can see winning. The rest would be surprising. I'll be using him, especially in cover multiples, but I'm not overly convinced by his actual talent, irrespective of numbers. His form outside of FG is just okay, and at FG he 1) didn't beat much, and 2) may just have loved the course. I was high on War Story prior to the La. Derby and backed him in futures expecting further progress, but that didn't happen. Based on that I can't see him factoring much, neither will Stanford. Keen Ice is a plodder and Tiznow RJ is a few cuts below. I don't wish bad will on anyone, but in a sense it wouldn't be the worst thing if he didn't run well in the Derby. To be in contention and ridden like that, in America's biggest race, would not be what racing needs in terms of spotlight. I wouldn't agree with the outcry or the notion that he could run as well when not being pushed so aggressively, but the media would have a field day.

I consider him the 11th most likely winner. Deep field.

[jms62]

Can someone that has been doing this longer than me 15 years tell me when we had a deeper Derby?

[cakes44]

2007

[Kitan]

2004 was twice as deep as 2007.

[cakes44]

Fine with me.
How about 2001 and 2003?

[Rudeboyelvis]

Originally Posted by RHT2004

I consider him the 11th most likely winner. Deep field.

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