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ateamstupid 04-04-2015 05:57 PM

Deepest Derby field in recent memory
 
So many awesome colts. Upstart, Materiality, Frosted, Dortmund, American Pharoah, Carpe Diem, etc. etc.

It's gonna be a great show and one of the best Derbies since I've started watching racing.

Pants II 04-04-2015 06:23 PM

I hope Dortmund stays healthy and has a 4 year old campaign. What a physical specimen with a silky smooth gait. Not certain he'll win the Derby (trip) but I'd be surprised if he's not in the mix at the quarter pole.

knickslions2 04-04-2015 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 1021685)
So many awesome colts. Upstart, Materiality, Frosted, Dortmund, American Pharoah, Carpe Diem, etc. etc.

It's gonna be a great show and one of the best Derbies since I've started watching racing.

Going to be one hell of a race to handicap too. Hope all stay on track to get there

declansharbor 04-04-2015 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by knickslions2 (Post 1021719)
Going to be one hell of a race to handicap too. Hope all stay on track to get there

Right?!?

Like, where do we even start? :D


Derby weekend can't get here quick enough!

tanner12oz 04-04-2015 08:09 PM

I can make a case for alot this year with no faults usually its couple but its at least a handful this year

Danzig 04-04-2015 08:16 PM

Kieran has to be feeling good about frosted. Hoperully they solved whatever ailed him after his last. Sure didnt quit today.

Kasept 04-04-2015 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 1021733)
Kieran has to be feeling good about frosted. Hoperully they solved whatever ailed him after his last. Sure didnt quit today.

Had a Llewelyn Procedure done.

asudevil 04-04-2015 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 1021734)
Had a Llewelyn Procedure done.

They fixed his upper lip because it wouldn't move when he spoke?

Easy Goer Otis 04-04-2015 11:55 PM

Looking forward to attending this year. Haven't gone since Pat Day brought Lil E Tee home in the race he had a devil of a time winning. A really slow Derby. 2:04 and change. Think I had Arazi.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mBQxqtsyTc

Was in the infield and it was too much fun sneaking liquor past the screeners. We had a cooler full of unopened cans of Hawaiian Punch and Grapefruit juice. Meanwhile, we poured 2 gallons of vodka over the ice. Looked like water. The screeners inspected all of the juices to make sure they weren't opened, but paid no attention to the liquid in the cooler. When got in we just poured all the juice right into the cooler and scooped up the grog. No way we were paying $8 for a beer or whatever it was. I was in my early 20s.

This year: Grandstand. But I will cast a sentimental eye on the infield.

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LITF 04-05-2015 12:03 AM

Not really sure how deep it is. Think there is a big divide between the top 4 (Dortmund, American Pharoah, Carpe Diem and Firing Line) and everyone else. Mubtaahij being the wild card.

I know it's still a month out but I'm curious on what everyones take is on the potential pace. I keep hearing it's going to be this blistering pace but as I look at the potential lineup I don't see any runaway speed ala Songandaprayer, Spanish Chestnut or a blinkered Palace Malace. I think the pace for this group might be reasonable. Just curious what others think.

Going to be a long four weeks...

ateamstupid 04-05-2015 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by LITF (Post 1021754)
Not really sure how deep it is. Think there is a big divide between the top 4 (Dortmund, American Pharoah, Carpe Diem and Firing Line) and everyone else. Mubtaahij being the wild card.

I love how the two horses who ran the fastest prep race of the season are lumped in with the "everyone else" that there's somehow a big gap back to. But yeah, Upstart, Materality and Frosted are total tosses. :zz:

LITF 04-05-2015 01:26 AM

Maybe not Upstart...

Kitan 04-05-2015 01:47 AM

3yo MSW 6.5f 1:20.17
F&M MSW 7f 1:27.32
G3 (Commissioner) 9.5f 1:58.60
$100k Stakes (Pants on Fire) 7f 1:24.61
3yo MSW 8f 1:40.27
3yoF G2 8.5f 1:47.40

Yeah, it was just the Florida Derby where they staggered home...

Dunbar 04-05-2015 04:32 AM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 1021756)
I love how the two horses who ran the fastest prep race of the season are lumped in with the "everyone else" that there's somehow a big gap back to. But yeah, Upstart, Materality and Frosted are total tosses. :zz:

:tro:

I can't remember the last Derby when this many of the top contenders had held their form. I'd also add Mubtaahij to the big gang at the top, but that may be wishful thinking. (Along with Materiality, Mubtaahij is my best chance to collect on the 'All Others' bets I've made in the Future Wager pools, bets that are looking a little weak right now.)

--Dunbar

Kasept 04-05-2015 06:32 AM

5/2/15 (CD): Kentucky Derby (10f)

1. International Star (Maker/Mena)
2. Dortmund (Baffert/M. Garcia)
3. Carpe Diem (Pletcher/Velazquez)
4. Frosted (McLaighlin/Rosario)
5. Mubtaahij (de Kock/Soumillon)
6. Materiality (Pletcher/Castellano-?)
7. El Kabeir (Terranova/Lopez)
8. Upstart (Violette/J. Ortiz)
9. American Pharoah (Baffert/V. Espinoza) -- Arkansas Derby
10. Itsaknockout (Pletcher/Saez)
11. Firing Line (S. Callaghan/Stevens)
12. Danzig Moon (Casse/Leparoux)
13. War Story (Amoss/Talamo)
14. Tencendur (Weaver/)
--. Maftool (bin Suroor/Hanagan) **
15. One Lucky Dane (Baffert/Bejarano)
16. Ami's Flatter (J. Carroll/TBD)
17. Stanford (Pletcher/Geroux)
18. Ocho Ocho Ocho (Cassidy/S. Gonzalez)
-- Bolo (Gaines/Smith) **
19. Prospect Park (Sise/Desormeaux)
20. Conquest Typhoon (Casse/Bridgmohan)
--------------------------------------------------
21. Far Right (Moquett) -- Arkansas Derby
22. Keen Ice (Romans)
23. Daredevil (Pletcher)
24. Madefromlucky (Pletcher) -- Arkansas Derby
25. Tiz Shea D (Mott)

Danzig 04-05-2015 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 1021734)
Had a Llewelyn Procedure done.

Right. was reading the other day about all they did after his last.

alysheba4 04-05-2015 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 1021685)
So many awesome colts. Upstart, Materiality, Frosted, Dortmund, American Pharoah, Carpe Diem, etc. etc.

It's gonna be a great show and one of the best Derbies since I've started watching racing.

Couldn't agree more, let's hope they all make into the starting gate.

miraja2 04-05-2015 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 1021685)
So many awesome colts. Upstart, Materiality, Frosted, Dortmund, American Pharoah, Carpe Diem, etc. etc.

It's gonna be a great show and one of the best Derbies since I've started watching racing.

Agreed. It seems to me that there have been years in the past where a horse with International Star's connections, PPs, and pedigree would have been one of the top two or three choices. This year he probably won't be in the top six or seven.

Danzig 04-05-2015 10:38 AM

And still with the ark derby upcoming. Been a great spring.

Sightseek 04-05-2015 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by miraja2 (Post 1021779)
Agreed. It seems to me that there have been years in the past where a horse with International Star's connections, PPs, and pedigree would have been one of the top two or three choices. This year he probably won't be in the top six or seven.

Looking at Lucky, anyone?


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