Deepest Derby field in recent memory

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by miraja2

Agreed. It seems to me that there have been years in the past where a horse with International Star's connections, PPs, and pedigree would have been one of the top two or three choices. This year he probably won't be in the top six or seven.

Looking at Lucky, anyone?

[robfla]

Looking at Lucky was the favorite at 6:1

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by robfla

Looking at Lucky was the favorite at 6:1

That was the point. This year, he wouldn't be just as International Star will have longer odds.

[Kitan]

Deep in what sense? I think that's more a function of fields in recent memory being such low standard than anything else. In terms of Beyer figs, this anticipated field is not dissimilar to that of last year, which has been denounced as a weak crop. Some of these may turn out to be great in the future without having a chance to win the Derby, e.g. Materiality, if that's what you mean? There's a few of the more favoured runners that I would be very surprised to see win.

I can only see five of the horses with any points whatsoever having any chance of winning, but only really like one, maybe two out of that five. There's two more extreme longshots that can potentially join that list of five if they have positive showings that fit my criteria at Oaklawn this weekend. Subjectively, liking one or two of twenty to win doesn't make it "deep".

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by Kitan

Deep in what sense? I think that's more a function of fields in recent memory being such low standard than anything else. In terms of Beyer figs, this anticipated field is not dissimilar to that of last year, which has been denounced as a weak crop. Some of these may turn out to be great in the future without having a chance to win the Derby, e.g. Materiality, if that's what you mean? There's a few of the more favoured runners that I would be very surprised to see win.

I can only see five of the horses with any points whatsoever having any chance of winning, but only really like one, maybe two out of that five. There's two more extreme longshots that can potentially join that list of five if they have positive showings that fit my criteria at Oaklawn this weekend. Subjectively, liking one or two of twenty to win doesn't make it "deep".

I'm beginning to wonder if you are PG1985 with a better vocabulary.

[Kitan]

I'm not exactly sure who that member is (no offense to PG1985) but at least you didn't call me RockHardTen so I guess that must be a compliment.

[Indian Charlie]

Those two posts might be the best consecutive posts ever!

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Kitan

I'm not exactly sure who that member is (no offense to PG1985) but at least you didn't call me RockHardTen so I guess that must be a compliment.

Be thankful that you can handicap horses far better then you can handicap DT Posters.

[Alabama Stakes]

Originally Posted by jms62

Be thankful that you can handicap horses far better then you can handicap DT Posters.

that would be a blast. 20 posts / 20 posters, who remain anonymous,try to match one list with the other.

[Kitan]

Originally Posted by jms62

Be thankful that you can handicap horses far better then you can handicap DT Posters.

I fluke out winners. My handicapping methods sway from the norm and my racing opinions are generally derided.

[asudevil]

Originally Posted by Kitan

I'm not exactly sure who that member is (no offense to PG1985) but at least you didn't call me RockHardTen so I guess that must be a compliment.

Just woke up and read this....started my day with a big smile...thank you!

It's all downhill from here.

[robfla]

Originally Posted by Kitan

I'm not exactly sure who that member is (no offense to PG1985) but at least you didn't call me RockHardTen so I guess that must be a compliment.

thanks for the laugh!

PG1985 IS RockHardTen!! new name after banishment