Roman Chapa under investigation for buzzer

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Pants II

He should be banned for life. And all of the trainers that used him should be banned for at least 90 days.

The stewards who let him back on the track after the second time should be fired if they aren't retired already.

This type of nonsense is what's driving bettors away from the game.

Dealing with jockeys who can't read English, much less a racing form, who can't judge pace, who herd on the far turn with impunity...

yeah I wanna push more money through the windows at a ridiculous takeout rate.

Pffffft

What percentage of jocks do you think have used a buzzer at some point in their career? My GUESS is would be <70%.

[Rudeboyelvis]

Originally Posted by Cardus

You mean >70%, no?

He had a 50 - 50 shot of getting it right

[dellinger63]

Where's PETA when you need them?

[ScottJ]

Originally Posted by freddymo

What percentage of jocks do you think have used a buzzer at some point in their career? My GUESS is would be <70%.

Originally Posted by Cardus

You mean >70%, no?

Is it just me or are both of these statements pretty damning? First, a 70% threshhold is set as some type of reasonable level; second, we have the thought that three out of four might have cheated.

My hope is that you could count the number of instances over the last two decades on your one hand.

[Arletta]

Charged with a Felony but Chapa insists the picture was photo-shopped.

http://www.paulickreport.com/news/ra...ed-buzzer-use/

[Calzone Lord]

The thing about Chapa, is that he gets caught.

It's mostly just ghost stories with the rest of them...








Anyone who rides Cecily Evans at Saratoga...

[Pants II]

Daily Mail UK...American site.

This is the cover story

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ine-photo.html

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Arletta

Charged with a Felony but Chapa insists the picture was photo-shopped.

http://www.paulickreport.com/news/ra...ed-buzzer-use/

suuuuure it was.
when he got busted the second time, he should have gotten a lifetime ban.

[Arletta]

Originally Posted by Danzig

suuuuure it was.
when he got busted the second time, he should have gotten a lifetime ban.

This should apply to ALL cheating in the game.. Trainers included.

[dagolfer33]

On ABC national news right now.........

[Rudeboyelvis]

Originally Posted by dagolfer33

On ABC national news right now.........

All. Over. Twitter. I mean insane right now. And just in time for the Derby Trail.

Peta vid 2.0

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Arletta

This should apply to ALL cheating in the game.. Trainers included.

Im all for giving someone a second chance. But a third, fourth, etc? No

[Danzig]

http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...apa?source=rss

why just a five year ban? why are repeat violators not just shown the door?! the sport doesn't need them!!


The stewards ruled that Chapa violated four rules or racing: possession of contraband, influence of race prohibited, unlawful influence on racing, and inhumane treatment of horse or Greyhound.


The latest suspension is the third for Chapa for attempting to alter the outcome of a horse's performance during a race. During his first year as a jockey, Chapa was suspended for nine months in Texas for possession of contraband intended to increase or decrease the speed of his horse after he told investigators he used a nail on his horse. In 2007 he was suspended five years in New Mexico for possession of an electrical device and was reinstated on a probationary basis in May 2011 prior to completion of the suspension.

reprehensible repeat behaviors. he should never be allowed back.

[pointman]

I guess he learned his lesson the last time he was suspended for five years, why increase it when he does the same thing?

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by pointman

I guess he learned his lesson the last time he was suspended for five years, why increase it when he does the same thing?

it is beyond absurd.

would the sport miss him if he was ruled off forever? of course not.

who does it serve if he's allowed back? again?

[casp0555]

he needs to look for a new line of work

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by Danzig

http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...apa?source=rss

why just a five year ban? why are repeat violators not just shown the door?! the sport doesn't need them!!

I think the truth of the matter is that the use of buzzers is so common that it's not even considered a big deal. The authorities have to act like it's a big deal but I don't think they truly think it's a big deal. How widespread is the use of buzzers? Since the year 2000, there have been 53 guys caught. I bet guys are caught less than 1% of the time, so there are probably thousands of instances of guys doing it. I had no idea that the use was still so widespread until seeing that statistic that there have been 53 cases since the year 2000.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/28/sp...cing.html?_r=1

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

I think the truth of the matter is that the use of buzzers is so common that it's not even considered a big deal. The authorities have to act like it's a big deal but I don't think they truly think it's a big deal. How widespread is the use of buzzers? Since the year 2000, there have been 53 guys caught. I bet guys are caught less than 1% of the time, so there are probably thousands of instances of guys doing it. I had no idea that the use was still so widespread until seeing that statistic that there have been 53 cases since the year 2000.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/28/sp...cing.html?_r=1

53 may be a fictional number

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

I think the truth of the matter is that the use of buzzers is so common that it's not even considered a big deal. The authorities have to act like it's a big deal but I don't think they truly think it's a big deal. How widespread is the use of buzzers? Since the year 2000, there have been 53 guys caught. I bet guys are caught less than 1% of the time, so there are probably thousands of instances of guys doing it. I had no idea that the use was still so widespread until seeing that statistic that there have been 53 cases since the year 2000.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/28/sp...cing.html?_r=1

i find that hard to believe...and i've never thought that's a good excuse to do it...that everyone does it.

http://www.jockeyclub.com/default.asp?section=FB&area=6

53 guys caught.... from 2000 to 2014. total number of races in that time span?
820, 114.
that's one buzzer for every 15,473 races in this country.
so..widespread use?
doesn't look that way to me.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Danzig

http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...apa?source=rss

why just a five year ban? why are repeat violators not just shown the door?! the sport doesn't need them!!


The stewards ruled that Chapa violated four rules or racing: possession of contraband, influence of race prohibited, unlawful influence on racing, and inhumane treatment of horse or Greyhound.


The latest suspension is the third for Chapa for attempting to alter the outcome of a horse's performance during a race. During his first year as a jockey, Chapa was suspended for nine months in Texas for possession of contraband intended to increase or decrease the speed of his horse after he told investigators he used a nail on his horse. In 2007 he was suspended five years in New Mexico for possession of an electrical device and was reinstated on a probationary basis in May 2011 prior to completion of the suspension.

reprehensible repeat behaviors. he should never be allowed back.

I believe that is the max they are allowed to give