Doug O'Neill says "I'll Have Another" -- Barred from BC '14

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by skyfire

And of course he can run in the Breeders Cup

yeah, that's one of the highlights of these occurrences-they give the suspensions around big days, that'll really hurt.

isn't the point of a suspension that it's harsh?

as for ahmed and others like him-these owners purposefully seek these trainers, because the adage says 'if you're not cheating, you're not trying'. they want to win, they don't necessarily want the best horse.

I do have to give points tho...instead of a 'do you think I'm stupid' defense, he went with the 'I wasn't there' defense...cause goodness knows that there's no way to communicate via that new-fangled phone contraption.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Danzig

yeah, that's one of the highlights of these occurrences-they give the suspensions around big days, that'll really hurt.

isn't the point of a suspension that it's harsh?

as for ahmed and others like him-these owners purposefully seek these trainers, because the adage says 'if you're not cheating, you're not trying'. they want to win, they don't necessarily want the best horse.

Those owners donate to horse related charities so they are horse loving people.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by jms62

Those owners donate to horse related charities so they are horse loving people.

yeah, buying indulgences is a time-honored tradition.

[Kasept]

Statement from Breeders' Cup Ltd., President and CEO Craig Fravel

“Due to the recent administrative action by the New York State Gaming Commission, Breeders' Cup Limited has informed trainer Doug O'Neill, and has notified the California Horse Racing Board, of the provisions of the Breeders' Cup Convicted Trainers rule. Under that rule, adopted in 2010 and amended in 2012, Mr. O’Neill will not be permitted to pre-enter horses in the 2014 Breeders’ Cup World Championships.”

The Breeders’ Cup Convicted Trainers Rule states the following: No person may participate as a trainer of a horse pre-entered or entered in a Breeders’ Cup World Championships race if that person, during the twelve months preceding the Breeders’ Cup World Championships, has been found by any racing regulatory agency, whether a governmental agency or a non-governmental regulatory body, to have violated a racing regulation prohibiting the possession or use of any substance listed under Class 1, carrying Category “A” or “B” penalties, or Class 2, carrying a Category “A” penalty, in the Association of Racing Commissioners International Uniform Classification Guidelines for Foreign Substances or a racing regulation prohibiting the possession or use of steroids and the appeal periods for such finding shall have expired or all appeals, if any, will have received final disposition (a “Drug Conviction”).

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Kasept

Statement from Breeders' Cup Ltd., President and CEO Craig Fravel

“Due to the recent administrative action by the New York State Gaming Commission, Breeders' Cup Limited has informed trainer Doug O'Neill, and has notified the California Horse Racing Board, of the provisions of the Breeders' Cup Convicted Trainers rule. Under that rule, adopted in 2010 and amended in 2012, Mr. O’Neill will not be permitted to pre-enter horses in the 2014 Breeders’ Cup World Championships.”

The Breeders’ Cup Convicted Trainers Rule states the following: No person may participate as a trainer of a horse pre-entered or entered in a Breeders’ Cup World Championships race if that person, during the twelve months preceding the Breeders’ Cup World Championships, has been found by any racing regulatory agency, whether a governmental agency or a non-governmental regulatory body, to have violated a racing regulation prohibiting the possession or use of any substance listed under Class 1, carrying Category “A” or “B” penalties, or Class 2, carrying a Category “A” penalty, in the Association of Racing Commissioners International Uniform Classification Guidelines for Foreign Substances or a racing regulation prohibiting the possession or use of steroids and the appeal periods for such finding shall have expired or all appeals, if any, will have received final disposition (a “Drug Conviction”).

Would be nice if they don't allow a O'Neill by Proxy trained horse to run.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by jms62

Would be nice if they don't allow a O'Neill by Proxy trained horse to run.

they should perhaps add a rule that a horse in the barn of a trainer under suspension can't enter under another's name unless he's been moved for at least 14 days-or something along those lines.

[Aly-Sheba]

Originally Posted by Danzig

they should perhaps add a rule that a horse in the barn of a trainer under suspension can't enter under another's name unless he's been moved for at least 14 days-or something along those lines.

Yes that would be a good start. Until they start putting a lot of pressure on the owners, these trainers will continue.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Cardus

Asmussen must have been horrified to learn that the horse he claimed had raced with a forbidden substance.