Police state reached

[Rudeboyelvis]

Congrats! Your tiny town has an MRAP and is ready for war!

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/t...ready-for-war/

Towns and counties that have recently acquired an MRAP:

Lyon County, Nev. (population: 51,000)
Watertown, Conn. (population 22,000)
Walla Walla, Wash. (population: 32,000)
Michigan City, Ind. (population: 31,000)
Mason City, Iowa (population: 28,000)
Madison, Ind. (population 12,000)
Willimantic, Conn. (population: 18,000)
Cape Girardeau, Mo. (population: 39,000)
Story County, Iowa (population: 91,000)
Manteca, Calif. (population: 71,000)
Jasper County, Iowa (population: 36,000)
Justice, Ill. (population: 13,000)
Dodge County, Wis. (population: 88,000)
Roanoke Rapids, N.C. (population: 16,000)
Nampa, Idaho (population: 83,900)
Merrillville, Ind. (population: 35,600)
St. Cloud, Minn. (population: 66,000)
Warren County, N.Y. (population: 65,500)
North Augusta, S.C. (population: 22,000)
Eureka, Calif. (population 27,000)

[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by Danzig

saw this yesterday, be sure to click on the post link to see the whole article by the cop.
so, if you get your head bashed in by a cop...well, you had it coming.

http://www.washingtonian.com/blogs/c...-brutality.php

Yeah, that Wa-Po op-Ed was bananas.

And our idiot NYC mayor told people to let cops arrest them and sort it out in court. Because that always works out so well for poor people. Gadzooks.

Longform.org posted a link to this piece on Commentary magazine's website:

http://www.commentarymagazine.com/article/the-watts/

It's a 1966 article about the 1965 Watts riots/protests. It's a fascinating, albeit depressing read, because it's been almost 50 years and nothing has changed. But worth the time to read.

[Rudeboyelvis]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

http://america.aljazeera.com/opinion...ompliance.html

Op Ed's from Al Jazeera?
the tone is 100% on point. what is misleading is that this "cult of compliance" has been ingrained into the society since 9/11.

It started off, innocently enough, with absurd TSA intrusions of personal liberty, in the "name of security", and are now part and parcel of everyday life.- "Put your shampoo in a baggie and make sure it is not 3.1 oz. or the baggie is no larger than a quart". "Agree to a full body scan or a groping session." "Take your shoes off, leave your shoes on, tap dance, stop tap dancing" - on and on.. It's now completely accepted and appreciated as "saving us from the devil" when really it was just the beginning of the complacency indoctrination process.
Add in the DHS (easily worth every penny of the 60 BILLION dollars a year we spend on "it), the Patriot Act, and how the expanded roles the NDAA plays in circumventing the constitution, of course all in the "name of security" and you get a greater erosion of liberty.

Now militarize the police so that it becomes accepted that we can expect them to basically "be an army" for our "security".

It's been going on right under your noses.

Ignore it, pay no attention.

"Hey look over there, it's another Ice Bucket Challenge!!!!"

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by OldDog

Really? So police are just killing black men willy nilly nationwide? For no reason? Golly . . .

it's common knowledge that black men get treated much differently than others that the police encounter.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

Congrats! Your tiny town has an MRAP and is ready for war!

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/t...ready-for-war/

Towns and counties that have recently acquired an MRAP:

Lyon County, Nev. (population: 51,000)
Watertown, Conn. (population 22,000)
Walla Walla, Wash. (population: 32,000)
Michigan City, Ind. (population: 31,000)
Mason City, Iowa (population: 28,000)
Madison, Ind. (population 12,000)
Willimantic, Conn. (population: 18,000)
Cape Girardeau, Mo. (population: 39,000)
Story County, Iowa (population: 91,000)
Manteca, Calif. (population: 71,000)
Jasper County, Iowa (population: 36,000)
Justice, Ill. (population: 13,000)
Dodge County, Wis. (population: 88,000)
Roanoke Rapids, N.C. (population: 16,000)
Nampa, Idaho (population: 83,900)
Merrillville, Ind. (population: 35,600)
St. Cloud, Minn. (population: 66,000)
Warren County, N.Y. (population: 65,500)
North Augusta, S.C. (population: 22,000)
Eureka, Calif. (population 27,000)

it's beyond crazy. and most of the time, the swat teams in these hick towns use their military surplus and their tanks and the like to do drug raids. and let's not even get into all the times that they 'hit' the wrong house.
just unbelievable.
i've seen one tim ever where the police were outgunned, when that guy stole that tank in california and went on a rampage.
there is no reason at all for these communities, or really any in this country, to have such things.
christ, this is the u.s., not some uncivilized backwater full of isis-type groups.

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

Op Ed's from Al Jazeera?
the tone is 100% on point. what is misleading is that this "cult of compliance" has been ingrained into the society since 9/11.

It started off, innocently enough, with absurd TSA intrusions of personal liberty, in the "name of security", and are now part and parcel of everyday life.- "Put your shampoo in a baggie and make sure it is not 3.1 oz. or the baggie is no larger than a quart". "Agree to a full body scan or a groping session." "Take your shoes off, leave your shoes on, tap dance, stop tap dancing" - on and on.. It's now completely accepted and appreciated as "saving us from the devil" when really it was just the beginning of the complacency indoctrination process.
Add in the DHS (easily worth every penny of the 60 BILLION dollars a year we spend on "it), the Patriot Act, and how the expanded roles the NDAA plays in circumventing the constitution, of course all in the "name of security" and you get a greater erosion of liberty.

Now militarize the police so that it becomes accepted that we can expect them to basically "be an army" for our "security".

It's been going on right under your noses.

Ignore it, pay no attention.

"Hey look over there, it's another Ice Bucket Challenge!!!!"

yeah, the whole patriot act, you're with us or against us type crap.

don't you want to be safe?

absolutely unreal how things have gotten. but hey, at least defense contractors are selling stuff, right?

a few years ago, my youngest managed to hit another car in the store parking lot. he went in and had them call the other cars owner.
so, i'm standing in front of the folks car with my son, trying to calm him down. he's embarrassed and a bit upset. the car owners were at the back of the car talking to the town policeman who was taking the report. it's cut and dried.
i look up, and see another cop coming up. i turn to my son and said 'oh, give me a break' he looks at me, i said 'another cop for a fender bender'. but this is podunk central, so it was the highlight of the day i'm sure.
the cop heard me say 'oh, give me a break'. he turns to me and says 'maam, if youre going to argue i'll take you to jail'.
i looked at him, my son, and then back at him. i said 'i'm not arguing'. he said i heard what you just said after what the lady told me.
i said 'sir, i didn't hear her and wasn't responding to her. and we all know what happened here. what i said was 'oh, give me a break' because i saw one of your other officers coming to help you write this report. you guys must be having a slow day'.
so, that jackhole is going to take me to jail because i said 'oh give me a break'? just unreal.

[OldDog]

Originally Posted by Danzig

it's common knowledge that black men get treated much differently than others that the police encounter.

I've heard a lot about "profiling" for the past 10-15 years, but not about "the very real and terrible pattern of police killings of African-American men." Is this pattern something about which someone can educate me?

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by OldDog

I've heard a lot about "profiling" for the past 10-15 years, but not about "the very real and terrible pattern of police killings of African-American men." Is this pattern something about which someone can educate me?

no, i'm not going to bother. you can find all that out for yourself if you so wish. try google for a start. or write al jazeera, since they're the ones who used the line.

[Danzig]

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slate...protestor.html

my gosh

[OldDog]

Might just be me, but if I found myself in a volatile place and time, and a person (any person) had a gun raised in my general direction, the last thing I would do is walk toward that person in a group and initiate a confrontation. But perhaps my sense of self preservation is stronger than some. As my Dad said, look for trouble and you'll likely find it.

By the way, al jazeera offers no statistics to back up the utterance of their opinion piece. If anything, there seems to be a lack of comprehensive data.

[joeydb]

Originally Posted by OldDog

By the way, al jazeera offers no statistics to back up the utterance of their opinion piece. If anything, there seems to be a lack of comprehensive data.

How's Al Jazeera's coverage of the Foley beheading? Think there's any bias there?

[jms62]

Originally Posted by joeydb

How's Al Jazeera's coverage of the Foley beheading? Think there's any bias there?

We have had quite a few biased links posted on this board but I vote Al Jazerra as the leader in the club house on anything related to America.

[Rudeboyelvis]

Darren Wilson "Nearly beaten unconscious" by Michael Brown before shooting:

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/08/20...n-says-source/

At least someone in the MSM is reporting this - finally.

[OldDog]

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

Darren Wilson "Nearly beaten unconscious" by Michael Brown before shooting:

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/08/20...n-says-source/

At least someone in the MSM is reporting this - finally.

The source also said the dashboard and body cameras, which might have recorded crucial evidence, had been ordered by Ferguson Police Chief Thomas Jackson, but had only recently arrived and had not yet been deployed.

Too bad.

[OldDog]

CLAYTON, Mo. (AP) - U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder reassured college students Wednesday in suburban St. Louis, a few miles from where 18-year-old Michael Brown was fatally shot by a police officer, and a small group of protesters gathered outside a building where a grand jury was expected to begin hearing evidence to determine whether the officer should be charged.

Holder, who was expected to head to Ferguson, Missouri, and meet with law enforcement officers and federal investigators, made his first stop Wednesday at the Florissant campus of St. Louis Community College, near the suburb of Ferguson where Brown was shot Aug. 9.

Kiyanda Welch said Holder talked to her and other students about the unrest and their own interaction with police. The attorney general told the group, "change is coming," Welch said.

Huh. One wonders what sort of change is coming?

[joeydb]

Originally Posted by OldDog

Huh. One wonders what sort of change is coming?

Likely a lot of closed businesses where the riots currently are.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by OldDog

Might just be me, but if I found myself in a volatile place and time, and a person (any person) had a gun raised in my general direction, the last thing I would do is walk toward that person in a group and initiate a confrontation. But perhaps my sense of self preservation is stronger than some. As my Dad said, look for trouble and you'll likely find it.

By the way, al jazeera offers no statistics to back up the utterance of their opinion piece. If anything, there seems to be a lack of comprehensive data.

i don't know that anyone will provide data for an 'opinion' piece.


'Darren Wilson "Nearly beaten unconscious" by Michael Brown before shooting'

the comments by the guy who was with brown and said 'the door kicked back' and that the cop 'tried to pull brown into his car' told me there was a physical confrontation between the two.

it's too bad there were no dash and cop cams.

what they have to try to figure out was if that shooting was justified. and even if the pope came and investigated, and said it was, there's going to be hell to pay from some in ferguson.

[Danzig]

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_a...only_part.html

[OldDog]

Ah. "Change is coming."

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archive...estigation.php

[GBBob]

What a piece of crap that article is. Even for a right wing dude you are, surely you can do better than that. As your new favorite partner in crime would say...you are a right wing ******...Dish it, deal with it

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by GBBob

What a piece of crap that article is. Even for a right wing dude you are, surely you can do better than that. As your new favorite partner in crime would say...you are a right wing ******...Dish it, deal with it

You call the article crap but you couldn't come up with even one criticism of the article. Saying something is crap without coming up with a single argument as to why is a completely empty critique.

I agree with everything the article says. I think the author does a good job of providing evidence to back up every argument he makes.

Eric Holder is a joke. He is just a liberal activist who only likes to prosecute certain groups. This has always been his modus operandi dating back to when he first came into office and dropped the case against the New Black Panthers. If that case had been against the KKK, rather than the New Black Panthers, Holder would have had the full weight of his office prosecuting that case.

Anyway, going back to this current case, I don't care whether you are liberal or conservative. I don't think there is one of you that could look at me with a straight face and tell me that Eric Holder would be in Ferguson with 40 FBI agents investigating this case if the police officer was black and the shooting victim was white. That is the point that the author of the article is trying to make and any objective person would agree with that.