4/23 (GP): Mandatory Pay Rainbow 6/Discussion

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by johnny pinwheel

how? if someone hits (alone) today they will get it all. the split may even be higher today, if its not hit..... i've already hit it twice on days where other people have hit(no jackpot) . thats the money i'm using to play today. believe me i know they are giving the whole pool no matter what....but if you spend 1000 dollars chasing it and its a fairly chalky day..oh, i forgot you guys are the only ones doing that......not....you might get your money back .............maybe........you will need to get multiple 50-1 shots or higher home..... and every "gold rush" fool will be tossing in covering every logical horse and then some.....but if you want to follow the sheep over the cliff....be my guest. it all sounds great until you are sharing it with thousands of other live tickets....are you the one that said "tough sequence". yeah, thats brilliance seeing that it has not been done in weeks.....chances are many more people will hit it tommorrow .......its been that way for weeks now(no jackpot). GO FOR IT TODAY. people never get pari mutuel betting....the more people have it ,....the less you get.....that simple. friday could be a block buster life changing hit,,,,,,saturday most likely will be a treasure hunt gimmick......with thousands splitting the pot. the saying is true here...the bandwagon and one is born every minute. don't listen to me...you won't anyway....sit there and do the math. what will it require to get that jackpot tommorrow?????? pretty much a miracle. i've been chasing it to get the whole thing...i've already shared the "booby" prize twice. please tell me how its a better bet when half the world might cash on it unless some really, really freaky horses win multiple races??????? especially if one were to put a thousand in ? i hope someone hits today....real dumb bet.....lol...not that i won't try tommorrow but so will half the world.

This should be on a plaque. Pretty much all chalk except for one modest price, and it pays more than six times the parlay. But yeah, Friday was the day to play.

[johnny pinwheel]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

This should be on a plaque. Pretty much all chalk except for one modest price, and it pays more than six times the parlay. But yeah, Friday was the day to play.

you should take a math class ....morons were putting up 1000 today(so they said)...did you read the post????...i hit it for 58 dollars.it was simple..forget picking horses you need a math class...betting 1000 is not even 3-1 for a pic 6.....read what i said...the split was about the SAME as yesterday..just like i said..how can you even brag .....one moron claimed it was the best bet of the year...give me a break...i could of bet 1000 on ONE 3-1 shot....oh, its the best bet of the year...idiots i was trying for the rainbow for weeks...just like i said... i did not want booby prize...3000 is like two weeks bets for me....if that...i do this for real. i did the math and told you it woiuld not pay much more than a grand..i guess i'm not an expert at math ....idiot. it paid 3..... wow, best bet of the year...twice the parlay....yeah, friggin right..if you put a thousand in......i guess i did not read about that here......1000 on that bet was sucker city......sorry......there were two singles yesterday and i think it paid more...chumps

[philcski]

Originally Posted by johnny pinwheel

you should take a math class ....morons were putting up 1000 today(so they said)...did you read the post????...i hit it for 58 dollars.it was simple..forget picking horses you need a math class...betting 1000 is not even 3-1 for a pic 6.....read what i said...the split was about the SAME as yesterday..just like i said..how can you even brag .....one moron claimed it was the best bet of the year...give me a break...i could of bet 1000 on ONE 3-1 shot....oh, its the best bet of the year...idiots i was trying for the rainbow for weeks...just like i said... i did not want booby prize...3000 is like two weeks bets for me....if that...i do this for real. i did the math and told you it woiuld not pay much more than a grand..i guess i'm not an expert at math ....idiot. it paid 3..... wow, best bet of the year...twice the parlay....yeah, friggin right..if you put a thousand in......i guess i did not read about that here......1000 on that bet was sucker city......sorry......there were two singles yesterday and i think it paid more...chumps

Math skills lacking... it paid SIX TIMES the parlay, as Ateam stated. That is why it was the best bet of the year. If you had a 3-1 shot that should have been 1-2, then THAT would also be the best bet of the year.

My matrix was available for public viewing here. https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?...FE&hl=en#gid=0

Where was your ticket before the day started Mr. 58??

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by philcski

Where was your ticket before the day started Mr. 58??

It's hard to say, as it was different than the post race one.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

It's hard to say, as it was different than the post race one.

I'm sure you are correct.

And if the 9 had won the last leg, our $800 syndicate would have lost money on the play. Does that mean it was a bad bet? Of course not.

[johnny pinwheel]

Originally Posted by philcski

I'm sure you are correct.

And if the 9 had won the last leg, our $800 syndicate would have lost money on the play. Does that mean it was a bad bet? Of course not.

that was my whole point....it is a bad bet. if i'm going to bet 400 on picking 6 horse races....i better get more than 3-1. thats what my first post said. gee, i'm going to bet 800 to get 820..on some gimmick half the world is betting....you were right its over 5 times the parlay...but its a dime and your burning numbers and a ticket or two.....plus yesterdays paid 2236 a little more than three times the parlay...there were two 3 dollar horses friday and a 8-5...so all the hoopla was worth it i guess according to you. i would never bet thinking thats a great win...but whatever. i got 1600, like thousands of other people that split with a friend. its a freakin pic 6 for crying out loud....i can find better deals than your theory betting to win and place..on one race...the way i usually bet or exactas...that things called a rainbow for reason...its a lousy dime and you are chasing the rainbow not the split, thats the whole point....there were 100,000 live tickets after the 10th race(with 2 races left)....just like i said in my original post....yeah ,,,it was going to pay big balloons........lol. you guys think i'm bragging like i get rich at this.....i do not...i can lose 2000 as soon as win it. but i'm not going to risk 700 to get 3200 and pick 6 horse races unless i intend on hitting hit all. yup half the world was chasing 3,000 dollars....it was a real jackpot. the only number i care about is ROI....i bet week in ....week out . keep records every month and tally the year. its a grind and an investment, the bottom line is all that matters.....and how much i have to bet to get so much back if i win....that thing could of paid 100 times the parlay...for someone like me its still looks like you bet 400 to get 1600. do the tellers give bonuses for beating the parlay? where i come from you made 3-1...on a pic 6. a few days from now when i throw my money back in the pool its still only a lousy 1600 for a pic 6 with a pool of 5.7 million...i can bet 200 of that on ONE horse i like and maybe win more if i'm right. in under a minute and a half. thats the reality of betting all the time..... ROI...they site it all the time in the NYRA show but i guess in derby trail land it does not matter...you'll do real well betting every day hitting pic 6's that pay 1600.....and like i said that was at 10 freakin cents...which is the only reason i played the thing....bet a little get alot...i got kicked in the teeth friday ...i admitted it...i was taking a shot not getting cute with the parlay. derby trails theory having to hit 6 horse races and getting an 8 dollar mutuel is a big victory....i'll remember that one.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by johnny pinwheel

that was my whole point....it is a bad bet. if i'm going to bet 400 on picking 6 horse races....i better get more than 3-1. thats what my first post said. gee, i'm going to bet 800 to get 820..on some gimmick half the world is betting....you were right its over 5 times the parlay...but its a dime and your burning numbers and a ticket or two.....plus yesterdays paid 2236 a little more than three times the parlay...there were two 3 dollar horses friday and a 8-5...so all the hoopla was worth it i guess according to you. i would never bet thinking thats a great win...but whatever. i got 1600, like thousands of other people that split with a friend. its a freakin pic 6 for crying out loud....i can find better deals than your theory betting to win and place..on one race...the way i usually bet or exactas...that things called a rainbow for reason...its a lousy dime and you are chasing the rainbow not the split, thats the whole point....there were 100,000 live tickets after the 10th race(with 2 races left)....just like i said in my original post....yeah ,,,it was going to pay big balloons........lol. you guys think i'm bragging like i get rich at this.....i do not...i can lose 2000 as soon as win it. but i'm not going to risk 700 to get 3200 and pick 6 horse races unless i intend on hitting hit all. yup half the world was chasing 3,000 dollars....it was a real jackpot. the only number i care about is ROI....i bet week in ....week out . keep records every month and tally the year. its a grind and an investment, the bottom line is all that matters.....and how much i have to bet to get so much back if i win....that thing could of paid 100 times the parlay...for someone like me its still looks like you bet 400 to get 1600. do the tellers give bonuses for beating the parlay? where i come from you made 3-1...on a pic 6. a few days from now when i throw my money back in the pool its still only a lousy 1600 for a pic 6 with a pool of 5.7 million...i can bet 200 of that on ONE horse i like and maybe win more if i'm right. in under a minute and a half. thats the reality of betting all the time..... ROI...they site it all the time in the NYRA show but i guess in derby trail land it does not matter...you'll do real well betting every day hitting pic 6's that pay 1600.....and like i said that was at 10 freakin cents...which is the only reason i played the thing....bet a little get alot...i got kicked in the teeth friday ...i admitted it...i was taking a shot not getting cute with the parlay. derby trails theory having to hit 6 horse races and getting an 8 dollar mutuel is a big victory....i'll remember that one.

Just so you're aware, idiotic lottery players like you are the reason Gulfstream experimented with this wager in the first place. They wanted people to piss money into a pool chasing a jackpot they were almost certainly not going to hit in order to attract more and more cash for when it actually had to be paid out.

I really don't understand how you can argue about value and ROI when you were playing a Pick 6 for weeks THAT DIDN'T PAY YOU IF YOU GOT 6 OUT OF 6. How in the hell is that a good investment? It's the biggest sucker bet in the game.

Let me try to explain to you, one last time, why beating the parlay 5+ times is important. The parlay of yesterday's winners would've paid $12,818 for $2. The actual $2 Pick 6 paid $65,585. Were it not for the carryover, the $2 payout would've been closer to $20,000. THE CARRYOVER MADE IT PAY THREE TIMES WHAT IT NORMALLY WOULD HAVE PAID. Why don't you understand that that in itself, makes it a good bet?

If you want to argue that people put too much money into their tickets, that's fine. But the payout, however pissant you may think it is, was significantly larger than it would've been on any other Saturday or at any other track for the same string of winning horses.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by johnny pinwheel

that was my whole point....it is a bad bet. if i'm going to bet 400 on picking 6 horse races....i better get more than 3-1. thats what my first post said. gee, i'm going to bet 800 to get 820..on some gimmick half the world is betting....you were right its over 5 times the parlay...but its a dime and your burning numbers and a ticket or two.....plus yesterdays paid 2236 a little more than three times the parlay...there were two 3 dollar horses friday and a 8-5...so all the hoopla was worth it i guess according to you. i would never bet thinking thats a great win...but whatever. i got 1600, like thousands of other people that split with a friend. its a freakin pic 6 for crying out loud....i can find better deals than your theory betting to win and place..on one race...the way i usually bet or exactas...that things called a rainbow for reason...its a lousy dime and you are chasing the rainbow not the split, thats the whole point....there were 100,000 live tickets after the 10th race(with 2 races left)....just like i said in my original post....yeah ,,,it was going to pay big balloons........lol. you guys think i'm bragging like i get rich at this.....i do not...i can lose 2000 as soon as win it. but i'm not going to risk 700 to get 3200 and pick 6 horse races unless i intend on hitting hit all. yup half the world was chasing 3,000 dollars....it was a real jackpot. the only number i care about is ROI....i bet week in ....week out . keep records every month and tally the year. its a grind and an investment, the bottom line is all that matters.....and how much i have to bet to get so much back if i win....that thing could of paid 100 times the parlay...for someone like me its still looks like you bet 400 to get 1600. do the tellers give bonuses for beating the parlay? where i come from you made 3-1...on a pic 6. a few days from now when i throw my money back in the pool its still only a lousy 1600 for a pic 6 with a pool of 5.7 million...i can bet 200 of that on ONE horse i like and maybe win more if i'm right. in under a minute and a half. thats the reality of betting all the time..... ROI...they site it all the time in the NYRA show but i guess in derby trail land it does not matter...you'll do real well betting every day hitting pic 6's that pay 1600.....and like i said that was at 10 freakin cents...which is the only reason i played the thing....bet a little get alot...i got kicked in the teeth friday ...i admitted it...i was taking a shot not getting cute with the parlay. derby trails theory having to hit 6 horse races and getting an 8 dollar mutuel is a big victory....i'll remember that one.

if $3 grand for a dime wasn't enough for you, why didn't you have it for $2?

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by johnny pinwheel

you should take a math class ....morons were putting up 1000 today(so they said)...did you read the post????...i hit it for 58 dollars.it was simple..forget picking horses you need a math class...betting 1000 is not even 3-1 for a pic 6.....read what i said...the split was about the SAME as yesterday..just like i said..how can you even brag .....one moron claimed it was the best bet of the year...give me a break...i could of bet 1000 on ONE 3-1 shot....oh, its the best bet of the year...idiots i was trying for the rainbow for weeks...just like i said... i did not want booby prize...3000 is like two weeks bets for me....if that...i do this for real. i did the math and told you it woiuld not pay much more than a grand..i guess i'm not an expert at math ....idiot. it paid 3..... wow, best bet of the year...twice the parlay....yeah, friggin right..if you put a thousand in......i guess i did not read about that here......1000 on that bet was sucker city......sorry......there were two singles yesterday and i think it paid more...chumps

You're absolutely clueless. You clearly don't 'do this for real', because if you did, you would know how rare it is to get a multi-race wager to pay 6+ times the parlay. That's once or twice a year value. Stop obsessing over how much people put into it and try to understand why today was a must-play and only morons chased it in prior days.

[herkhorse]

johnny postrace hit it on a 58.00 ticket. the rest of you are all morons.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by herkhorse

johnny postrace hit it on a 58.00 ticket. the rest of you are all morons.

Herk, you suck. Why didn't you have it 20 times today?

[herkhorse]

Originally Posted by philcski

Herk, you suck. Why didn't you have it 20 times today?

I did. The tickets I posted were merely decoys.

[golfer]

Was alive to 6 horses in the last leg on a $144 ticket. They finished 2nd,3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th and 11th.

[johnny pinwheel]

Originally Posted by philcski

Herk, you suck. Why didn't you have it 20 times today?

i had to split it...i guess you did not read what i said....i partnered up today...because i knew it was going to pay squat...plus i lost 600 hundred yesterday.....so big deal...we picked six and made 1600...i could lose that by friday. i guess thats what people aspire to do split a losy ticket after it was the hype of the century....i bet all the time i could care less about what a parley pays...the pics are always a pool and its all about the money vs. the reward....i would not be surprised if someone did have it 20 times...i don't waste my time to pic 6 and not win something good.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by johnny pinwheel

i had to split it...i guess you did not read what i said....i partnered up today...because i knew it was going to pay squat...plus i lost 600 hundred yesterday.....so big deal...we picked six and made 1600...i could lose that by friday. i guess thats what people aspire to do split a losy ticket after it was the hype of the century....i bet all the time i could care less about what a parley pays...the pics are always a pool and its all about the money vs. the reward....i would not be surprised if someone did have it 20 times...i don't waste my time to pic 6 and not win something good.

If you have all this dough, you could have punched it for a typical $2 pick 6 ticket and had it 20 times for $65k. The dime wager allows more players to play and in this case, avoid IRS withholding. This is a good thing. Is $65k not good enough?

And if you don't care how much it pays relative to the parlay, you don't understand multirace wagers.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by johnny pinwheel

i bet all the time i could care less about what a parley pays

Then you're doing it wrong. The very idea of the multirace wager is to get paid more than the individual win prices would've given you, genius. Do you have absolutely no concept of value? Because your idea of it is apparently pissing away money chasing a nearly imaginary jackpot at 50 percent takeout, rather than hitting a pick six against nearly zero takeout that paid almost six times the parlay and three or four times what it would've paid on a regular day.

You can't be this dumb.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

You're absolutely clueless. You clearly don't 'do this for real', because if you did, you would know how rare it is to get a multi-race wager to pay 6+ times the parlay. That's once or twice a year value. Stop obsessing over how much people put into it and try to understand why today was a must-play and only morons chased it in prior days.

The great irony, of course, is that the very reason it was such a great play today is that some people were foolish enough to continue pouring money into it in prior days.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

The great irony, of course, is that the very reason it was such a great play today is that some people were foolish enough to continue pouring money into it in prior days.

Exactly.

[NTamm1215]

I just heard the Players Pool had $0.20 on it. They lost 96,800 dollars on the play.

[smuthg]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

I just heard the Players Pool had $0.20 on it. They lost 96,800 dollars on the play.

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