Founding fathers liked taxed government health care

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Riot

The Supremes will probably get it April, and life will go on. With large fines for many.

FTFY

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

FTFY

$95 for an individual that you don't have to ever pay is a really big fine.

What about the small businesses that already are getting tax credits this year, and buying insurance for their employees for the first time ?

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Riot

$95 for an individual that you don't have to ever pay is a really big fine.

What about the small businesses that already are getting tax credits this year, and buying insurance for their employees for the first time ?

in 2016 - a short 5 years away.

The fine is $695 per person.

A family of 3 has to pay $2,085!!!

you must make a lot of money giving dogs rabies shots to think that 695 or 2085 is an easily payable fine


Your $95 thing is extremely misleading as that only counts for 2014 & 2015. But I dont expect anything less from you. I mean, you think Social Security is just fine because we dont run out of money until 2037 and you'll be long gone by then!

[Antitrust32]

actually, just saying $95 is even more misleading than I originally thought!!

in 2014 & 2015, an adult who does not have health insurance will be fined $95 or 1% of their income, whichever is GREATER.

aka

only if you make $9,500 per year will you only have to pay a $95 fine.



Say you make 25k per year... thats a $250 fine for 2014 and 2015

than after 2016 and beyond (which will encompass a lot more than the two years you decided to make an uneducated comment on)

it is $695 per adult... or 2.5% of their income... whichever is GREATER

or $2085 for a family, or 2.5% of their income... whichever is GREATER


So if a family makes 50k per year combined... you will be shelling out 4% of your income to the government. that is so easy to do!

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

only if you make $9,500 per year will you only have to pay a $95 fine.

But you won't pay any fine, because you will be on Medicaid or have a voucher, so you will have health insurance.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

in 2016 - a short 5 years away.

The fine is $695 per person.

A family of 3 has to pay $2,085!!!

you must make a lot of money giving dogs rabies shots to think that 695 or 2085 is an easily payable fine


Your $95 thing is extremely misleading as that only counts for 2014 & 2015. But I dont expect anything less from you. I mean, you think Social Security is just fine because we dont run out of money until 2037 and you'll be long gone by then!

First, yes, I started with the beginning of the program - 2014 and 2015 - because that will be the fines people first will be assessed. Hopefully, during those two years, they will be able to purchase health insurance. That is the whole point - to make health insurance affordable so they will have healthcare.

Secondly, there is no penalty, no collection of unpaid fines.

So let's not be both misleading and rude and insulting to other posters. Right? Let's keep the personal insults out of it, because you're classy, right? I've highlighted all the non-insult stuff in your post, just so we can keep focused. Your insults are just extraneous personal bullshit from you.

And it is a false statement that we "run out of money" in 2037 regarding Social Security. We do not. At that point, if nothing at all is done, Social Security will still pay out, but at only 78% of what it should. That will be easily fixed, as it has in the past. There is no fear of Social Security "going broke"

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Riot

So let's not be both misleading and rude and insulting to other posters. Right? Let's keep the personal insults out of it, because you're classy, right? I've highlighted all the non-insult stuff in your post, just so we can keep focused. Your insults are just extraneous personal bullshit from you.

yeah cause you are the world leader in classiness and being respectful.

You are probably the rudest person on this whole site, that is why people have such a problem with you. Because you pretend that you are better than everyone and are just so high class and knowledgable. You act like you've read every page of every book in the library of congress.

Well you dish it better than anyone, so man up and take it... i know you are good at that.

& I'm not being mean... I'm just being intellectually honest.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

yeah cause you are the world leader in classiness and being respectful.

You are probably the rudest person on this whole site, that is why people have such a problem with you. Because you pretend that you are better than everyone and are just so high class and knowledgable. You act like you've read every page of every book in the library of congress.

Well you dish it better than anyone, so man up and take it... i know you are good at that.

& I'm not being mean... I'm just being intellectually honest.

When someone points out your personal attacks and calls them classless, yet ignores your personal attacks and responds to the content of your post anyway, always best to double down and prove beyond a doubt you didn't deserve that respect

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Riot

When someone points out your personal attacks and calls them classless, yet ignores your personal attacks and responds to the content of your post anyway, always best to double down and prove beyond a doubt you didn't deserve that respect

oooooooohhhhkaaaaay

what ever makes your brain happy.

Riot, you should move to a state that has medical marijuana. It will help your knee and your mind!

^^ see I'm giving out positive advice that is in your best interest

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Riot

And it is a false statement that we "run out of money" in 2037 regarding Social Security. We do not. At that point, if nothing at all is done, Social Security will still pay out, but at only 78% of what it should. That will be easily fixed, as it has in the past. There is no fear of Social Security "going broke"

maybe for people older than 65 cause they will be dead... but the rest of the country fears SS.