BP Gives Up

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Riot

What does Chernobyl have to do with the gulf oil spill? Nothing at all, other than that it was a disaster. Ludicrous comparison.

If you think this was just an "accident", you clearly need to get up to speed on what has been publicized and verified as to what went down on that rig before 11 men were killed. It was no accident. It was a disaster waiting to happen. It was purposeful, deliberate shortcuts of safety in favor of money.

Drilling on that rig was behind schedule, millions of dollars over budget, and decisions were made before the explosion and fire to pursue less expensive, quicker, more dangerous drilling methods. Eleven men are dead.

Verified, publicized, whistleblown. You've missed this in the news, or you are just ignoring it?

Regarding the "stricter government regulation", you might note how MMS allowed BP (at BP insistence) to remove multiple safety requirements that would have prevented this disaster. BP is responsible for 97% of the safety violations in the oil industry. "Guessing" those safety requirements would have prevented it? Not true, according to those in the industry, and the whistleblowers that have already come forward about what happened on that rig before the disaster (cutting corners to save costs, etc).

You want no government interference? Here ya go. Here's the result of BP removing MMS supervision. You got it in spades - it's spilling thousands of gallons in the gulf right now, and eleven men are dead.

Why do you think OSHA even exists? Because strict, unfettered capitalism goes out of it's way to protect it's workers lives?

Kinda like the US before unions? Like China now?

Feel free to "retrain your rights" and wait for BP to clean this up all alone, with zero government supervision. Good luck with being a strict libertarian in the face of real life.

What about the rights of we Americans to not live in a hazmat zone, to keep our businesses, to fish, to have our gulf of Mexico, and the species who live there, unspoiled?

You want strict, unfettered capitalism, you have to live with the consequences. There is room for government, to protect the rights of it's citizens, to protect our resources, to protect our lives.



Really? Is that the same as "you people" (Cannon) championing the rights of companies to kill their employees with no responsibility? Uh. Okay.

Give me a break. Your lust to say that gov't supervision would have prevented this is typical. What about all the other things that are under govt supervision like ...securing the border? LOL

You act like the socialist way is the foolproof way yet when given the example of Chernobyl (an energy related disaster run by a govt, not private enterprise) you act as if there isn't a connection.

What is really ironic is when you "put words in our mouths" which is what we are always accused of. No one has proposed "no gov't interference". Yet some of us realize that the gov't is hardly the foolproof mechanism that you want to believe it is.

"Verified whistle blowing" is something that happens after the fact. There is no reason to believe that even with tougher regulation that something as simple as human error couldn't lead to an accident. The fact is that usurping the rights of individuals or entities because you are mad is a dangerous thing, especially in the times in which we live where the people in charge of the country (both sides) seemingly have no bounds when it comes to politicizing an issue or situation.

OSHA is a bureaucracy that does little more than exist to exist like most govt bureaucracies.

We all know that big companies like BP don't care about much other than making profits. Really that is all they are designed to do. They are going to pay a huge price for this disaster. Maybe they will even get swallowed up by another giant company and not even exist in the future. Maybe PetroChina will buy them out. Think Obama will have tough talk for them?