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Old 06-16-2010, 12:21 PM
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I suppose captialism caused Chernobyl as well?

I don't know anything about oil rigs (as a matter of fact there is only one poster that I know of that has ever stepped foot on one) but this seemed to be an accident. People who are proclaiming that stricter govt regulation could have prevented this are guessing as well. Acting as if BP didn't care that this happened is beyond idiotic. Everyone is monday morning quarterbacking this deal now and taking away our rights because of an accident regardless of how devastating the results are is a dangerous path. Naturally these same people (Riot) champion the rights of terrorists yet seem willing to handover private business to the govt.

Uh ok...
What does Chernobyl have to do with the gulf oil spill? Nothing at all, other than that it was a disaster. Ludicrous comparison.

If you think this was just an "accident", you clearly need to get up to speed on what has been publicized and verified as to what went down on that rig before 11 men were killed. It was no accident. It was a disaster waiting to happen. It was purposeful, deliberate shortcuts of safety in favor of money.

Drilling on that rig was behind schedule, millions of dollars over budget, and decisions were made before the explosion and fire to pursue less expensive, quicker, more dangerous drilling methods. Eleven men are dead.

Verified, publicized, whistleblown. You've missed this in the news, or you are just ignoring it?

Regarding the "stricter government regulation", you might note how MMS allowed BP (at BP insistence) to remove multiple safety requirements that would have prevented this disaster. BP is responsible for 97% of the safety violations in the oil industry. "Guessing" those safety requirements would have prevented it? Not true, according to those in the industry, and the whistleblowers that have already come forward about what happened on that rig before the disaster (cutting corners to save costs, etc).

You want no government interference? Here ya go. Here's the result of BP removing MMS supervision. You got it in spades - it's spilling thousands of gallons in the gulf right now, and eleven men are dead.

Why do you think OSHA even exists? Because strict, unfettered capitalism goes out of it's way to protect it's workers lives?

Kinda like the US before unions? Like China now?

Feel free to "retrain your rights" and wait for BP to clean this up all alone, with zero government supervision. Good luck with being a strict libertarian in the face of real life.

What about the rights of we Americans to not live in a hazmat zone, to keep our businesses, to fish, to have our gulf of Mexico, and the species who live there, unspoiled?

You want strict, unfettered capitalism, you have to live with the consequences. There is room for government, to protect the rights of it's citizens, to protect our resources, to protect our lives.

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Naturally these same people (Riot) champion the rights of terrorists yet seem willing to handover private business to the govt.
Really? Is that the same as "you people" (Cannon) championing the rights of companies to kill their employees with no responsibility? Uh. Okay.
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