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Old 05-24-2012, 11:37 AM
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I'm not going to get into how Beyer handled the numbers, but I'd like to look at the pace part of the races in question. First, isn't it important to note that in the Derby Trial, Paynter was basically in a three horse speed duel that featured pretty decent fractions, while at Pimlico he sat on the outside of an inferior rival (he was 1 to 10), set modest at best fractions, and drew off while never really being under pressure? I would expect a much better final time number at Pimlico.

These are the numbers I have for Paynter (I use a new scale, not Beyer):

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CD   04/28/2012   8    82    81    75
PIM  05/19/2012   4    76    79    84
Note that even with the big gap of 9 points (about 14 on the Beyer scale), I'm not going back and changing the Trial number. Why would I? I don't do things this simply, but if you add up the three ratings the races look VERY similar, 238 to 239.

Pace can and does often have a lot to do with the final numbers. Even if pace weren't a factor here (and it clearly was), I would still say just because a lightly raced three year old jumps up to a big number doesn't mean previous figures are wrong. They are supposed to be improving, and Paynter found the ultimate circumstances to hang up a big number.
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