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07-02-2010, 03:16 AM
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What Horses are not in the Hall of Fame you think should be?
What horses are not in the Hall of Fame you think should be?
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07-02-2010, 07:31 AM
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Anyone remember the name of the maiden in New Jersey who held the record that Zippy beat ? I think it was a mare who ran at least 70 times before doing it. It was mid 90's.
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07-02-2010, 08:04 AM
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Giant's Causeway, Point Given (or is he in?) and Rock Hard Ten.
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07-02-2010, 08:51 AM
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Point Given is getting in this year and I think its one of the biggest shams in the history of the HOF. A joke that he is getting in...
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07-02-2010, 08:54 AM
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Maybe they'll have a replay of the "Point Given, not today" Derby stretch run at his induction?
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07-02-2010, 09:10 AM
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Manilla and Inside Information both took way too long to get in - not getting in until 2008.
Grass horses have it very tough.
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07-02-2010, 09:44 AM
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Just more nebulous nonsense from BBB
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07-02-2010, 09:54 AM
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07-02-2010, 10:00 AM
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Lemon Drop Kid Race Record
Age Starts 1st (SW) 2nd (sp) 3rd (sp) Earnings 2 6 2 (1) 2 (1) 1 $222,070 3 9 3 (2) 1 (1) 1 (1) $1,349,400 4 9 5 (4) 0 1 (1) $1,673,900 24 10 (7) 3 (2) 3 (2) $3,245,370 (RI: 59.30) (4, 9f, Career best Rag# -) At 2: 1st Futurity S.-G1 ($150,000, Bel, 8f, 1:37.50, dftd. Yes It's True, Medievil Hero), 2nd Champagne S.-G1 ($400,000, Bel). At 3: 1st Belmont S.-G1 ($1,000,000, Bel, 12f, 2:27.88, dftd. Vision and Verse, Charismatic), Travers S.-G1 ($1,000,000, Sar, 10f, 2:02.19, dftd. Vision and Verse, Menifee), 2nd Jim Dandy S.-G2 ($300,000, Sar), 3rd Peter Pan S.-G2 ($150,000, Bel). At 4: Champion Older Male, 1st Whitney H.-G1 (Rag# 0) ($1,042,000, Sar, 9f, 1:48.30, dftd. Cat Thief, Behrens), Woodward S.-G1 ($500,000, Bel, 9f, 1:50.53, dftd. Behrens, Gander), Suburban H.-G2 ($500,000, Bel, 10f, 1:58.97, by 2 1/2 lengths, dftd. Behrens, Lager), Brooklyn H.-G2 ($250,000, Bel, 9f, 1:49.93, by 7 1/4 lengths, dftd. Lager, Down the Aisle), 3rd Pimlico Special H.-G1 ($750,000, Pim).
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07-02-2010, 10:03 AM
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I think he was mocking that you think Cruget should be in the Hall of Fame. In fact, I know he was mocking that.
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07-02-2010, 10:12 AM
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07-02-2010, 10:20 AM
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Jean Cruguet (born March 8, 1939 in Agen, Lot-et-Garonne, France) is an French-American thoroughbred horse racing jockey who won the United States Triple Crown of Thoroughbred Racing.
At age five, Jean Cruguet was placed in an orphanage after his father abandoned the family and his mother was unable to cope. From age ten to sixteen, he lived at a secondary school run by Roman Catholic priests where he says he was physically abused. At age sixteen, a friend of his grandfather offered the diminutive Cruguet work at a Thoroughbred race track. His fledgling career as a jockey was interrupted by mandatory military service and he served in the French Army during the Algerian War. After being discharged from the army, Cruguet returned to thoroughbred flat racing. He replaced army-bound jockey Yves Saint-Martin at the stable run by prominent trainer Francois Mathet. Once Saint-Martin was discharged from the army, Cruguet had to find new rides but met with only limited success. After meeting his future wife Denise, a trainer and one of the pioneering woman in French racing, in 1965 they decided to emigrate to the United States. In Florida, Cruguet was hired to ride for Horatio Luro at Hialeah Park Race Track and in the ensuing years he began to achieve success. In 1969, he won a major Grade I race when due to another commitment by jockey Braulio Baeza, Cruguet replaced him aboard Arts and Letters and rode the future Hall of Fame colt to victory in the Metropolitan Handicap at Belmont Park. In 2004 Jean Cruguet said Hoist The Flag was the best horse he ever rode. [1]. The 1970 U.S. Champion 2-year-old colt, ridden by Cruguet in all his starts, went undefeated in his short career but in his 3 yr-old season was injured in March 1971 while preparing for the Wood Memorial Stakes. The career-ending injury denied the colt a chance to try for the Triple Crown, a prospect of winning all three legs was something many think was possible. Cruguet and his wife returned to race in Europe for the 1972 season where he won important Group One races such as the Prix Vermeille and Poule d'Essai des Pouliches in France and the Champion Stakes in England. He rode the Champion San San in all her wins for trainer Angel Penna, Sr. but missed being aboard the great filly for her win in the Prix de l'Arc de Triomphe when he was sidelined by injury as a result of a racing accident. After finishing second in France's jockey standings for 1972, Cruguet and his wife returned to the United States. In 1976 Jean Cruguet rode the two-year-old colt Seattle Slew to victory in the Champagne Stakes. The following year he achieved racing immortality aboard Seattle Slew. They won the Wood Memorial Stakes and the Flamingo Stakes enroute to winning the Kentucky Derby, Preakness Stakes, and the Belmont Stakes, thereby capturing the prestigious Triple Crown. In a move still written about today, with 20 yards to go to the finish line in the Belmont Stakes, Cruguet stood up in the stirrups, raised his right arm over his head, and jubilantly gave the crowd a victory salute by waving his whip in the air. In 1978, Cruguet was the regular jockey aboard Mac Diarmida whose wins included the two most important North American turf races with European competitors: the Canadian International Championship at Woodbine Racetrack in Toronto, Canada and the Washington, D.C. International at Laurel Park Racecourse in Laurel, Maryland. Mac Diarmida was voted the 1978 Eclipse Award for American Champion Male Turf Horse. Jean Cruguet retired from riding in July 1980 to join his wife as a full-time trainer in their own small stable but returned to riding two years later. His last major Grade I Stakes victory came aboard Hodges Bay in the 1989 Canadian International Stakes at Woodbine Racetrack. Retired and now living near Versailles, Kentucky, Cruguet made guest appearances for many years in support of organizations such as Old Friends [2], a retirement and rescue facility for pensioned Thoroughbreds in Midway, Kentucky. However, in recent years, he has almost completely disappeared from the public eye because he has been the sole caregiver for his wife Denise, who has been bedridden since suffering a stroke in 2003.[1] AND ALEX SOLIS GOT IN THIS YEAR???? PFFFT
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07-02-2010, 10:22 AM
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07-02-2010, 10:28 AM
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He's mocking you.
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07-02-2010, 10:38 AM
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07-02-2010, 10:54 AM
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Anybody that saw Jean Cruget ride would find the suggestion, a serious one that is, that he belongs in the Hall of Fame, to be beyond laughable.
Two words.....Flying Water.
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Just more nebulous nonsense from BBB
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07-02-2010, 11:21 AM
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http://www.examiner.com/x-43823-Lexi...ll-of-Fame-nod Heres a nice article about Cruguet getting in also
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