Half Bro to Smarty entered on 1/1/07

Scav · #1 12-29-2006, 05:05 PM

Horse name Speedy Jones
Notes
Activity type Entry
Activity date 01-01-2007
Track Santa Anita
Surface Dirt
Distance 6 Furlongs
Race number 5
Purse $46,000
Race type Maiden Special Weight
Post position 2
Jockey Gryder A T
Race entry http://www.drf.com/entries/01/eSA01.html#5

blackthroatedwind · #2 12-29-2006, 05:06 PM

I'm already rooting against him.

The hatred should seep in shortly.

Scav · #3 12-29-2006, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I'm already rooting against him.

The hatred should seep in shortly.

Why....

blackthroatedwind · #4 12-29-2006, 05:10 PM

I never warmed up to that horse. Probably because I was too stupid to like him and also because he had the most annoying following I have ever seen.

His absurd early retirement was the final nail in the coffin.

I thought his Preakness was very impressive however and any horse able to overcome Stewie Elliot as effectively as he did had to be pretty damn good.

Danzig · #5 12-29-2006, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I never warmed up to that horse. Probably because I was too stupid to like him and also because he had the most annoying following I have ever seen.

His absurd early retirement was the final nail in the coffin.

I thought his Preakness was very impressive however and any horse able to overcome Stewie Elliot as effectively as he did had to be pretty damn good.

excellent post, and point!

it's hard sometimes to like a horse when the adulation borders the ridiculous. or oversteps ridiculous and leaps to asinine. i think the worst tho was the adulation for rock hard ten. at least smarty had a ton of talent to go with his following, rather than just good looks and height.

Scav · #6 12-29-2006, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I never warmed up to that horse. Probably because I was too stupid to like him and also because he had the most annoying following I have ever seen.

His absurd early retirement was the final nail in the coffin.

I thought his Preakness was very impressive however and any horse able to overcome Stewie Elliot as effectively as he did had to be pretty damn good.

You get ONE jockey to ride for you, ALL of them are available, riding today, who would it be

blackthroatedwind · #7 12-29-2006, 06:26 PM

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You get ONE jockey to ride for you, ALL of them are available, riding today, who would it be

Prado.

I really don't care, but some guys are bad, and Elliot is one of them. When he rode the 2005 winter on the inner it was pitiful.

ArlJim78 · #8 12-29-2006, 06:39 PM

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You get ONE jockey to ride for you, ALL of them are available, riding today, who would it be

No question about it, SHANE!!!!!

Scav · #9 12-29-2006, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Prado.

I really don't care, but some guys are bad, and Elliot is one of them. When he rode the 2005 winter on the inner it was pitiful.

Victor Espinoza
C. Nak
Javy
Prado
Rene Douglas
C. Emigh (in Illinois)
K. Cogburn (not even sure if he is riding anymore)

These seven, I will never be upset at, because they got stones, and they TRY to win.

blackthroatedwind · #10 12-29-2006, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav

Victor Espinoza
C. Nak
Javy
Prado
Rene Douglas
C. Emigh (in Illinois)
K. Cogburn (not even sure if he is riding anymore)

These seven, I will never be upset at, because they got stones, and they TRY to win.

Currently there might be some people who would dispute the integrity of one member of your list.

I really don't watch California, but I have never forgiven Espinoza for his ridiculous premature moves on Spain in the Fall of 2001.

Scav · #11 12-29-2006, 07:06 PM

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Currently there might be some people who would dispute the integrity of one member of your list.

I really don't watch California, but I have never forgiven Espinoza for his ridiculous premature moves on Spain in the Fall of 2001.

yeah, Douglas is VERY questionable, but he is always 'riden dirty'

I don't expect an old fart like you to know what that is.....

blackthroatedwind · #12 12-29-2006, 07:08 PM

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yeah, Douglas is VERY questionable, but he is always 'riden dirty'

I don't expect an old fart like you to know what that is.....

I'm sure that's much too hip a term for me.

blackthroatedwind · #13 12-29-2006, 07:14 PM

A competent rider would have won that Distaff....and probably the Beldame a few weeks earlier.

Scav · #14 12-29-2006, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by ArlJim78

No question about it, SHANE!!!!!

I can not even respond to such nonsense. He couldn't win a walkover

#15 12-29-2006, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav

Victor Espinoza
C. Nak
Javy
Prado
Rene Douglas
C. Emigh (in Illinois)
K. Cogburn (not even sure if he is riding anymore)

These seven, I will never be upset at, because they got stones, and they TRY to win.

Kevin Cogburn? Man Scav you do live on the edge! Your right, a good jock, who will give you whatever is under him. I know he rode in this year's LS TB meet. Probably now at SH, Delta or Sunland.

Where did you see him ride?

Ez

Scav · #16 12-29-2006, 07:25 PM

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Kevin Cogburn? Man Scav you do live on the edge! Your right, a good jock, who will give you whatever is under him. I know he rode in this year's LS TB meet. Probably now at SH, Delta or Sunland.

Where did you see him ride?

Ez

I have been betting him since I was a tot. I used to need beer money at SIU and I knew Sam Houston was running and cruised up to the OTB and put it all on Cogburn....he used to be a 20% clip jock but I think he was having problems, weight and drugs.

AeWingnut · #17 12-29-2006, 09:10 PM

I don't like Gryder. My favorite jockey used to be Jon Court. He still brings in a few long shots here and there.

Today I like Mike Talamo

Rupert Pupkin · #18 12-29-2006, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig188

excellent post, and point!

it's hard sometimes to like a horse when the adulation borders the ridiculous. or oversteps ridiculous and leaps to asinine. i think the worst tho was the adulation for rock hard ten. at least smarty had a ton of talent to go with his following, rather than just good looks and height.

Yeah, Rock Hard Ten really sucked. He only won 5 graded stakes races in a row: He won the Swaps(Grade II), then the Malibu(Grade I), then the Strub(Grade II), then the SA Handicap(Grade I), then the Goodwood(Grade II).

I guess you're right. All he had was good looks. He only won 5 graded stakes races in a row at distances ranging anwhere from 7 furlongs to 1 1/4 miles. I can't figure out why people thought he was a good horse.

Scav · #19 12-29-2006, 10:10 PM

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Yeah, Rock Hard Ten really sucked. He only won 5 graded stakes races in a row: He won the Swaps(Grade II), then the Malibu(Grade I), then the Strub(Grade II), then the SA Handicap(Grade I), then the Goodwood(Grade II).

I guess you're right. All he had was good looks. He only won 5 graded stakes races in a row at distances ranging anwhere from 7 furlongs to 1 1/4 miles. I can't figure out why people thought he was a good horse.

Have you seen Smarty's half work? I haven't heard ANYTHING about him but his works have been decent

Rupert Pupkin · #20 12-29-2006, 10:29 PM

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Have you seen Smarty's half work? I haven't heard ANYTHING about him but his works have been decent

He actually does come out of a 2 year olds in training sale. He comes out of the Fasig Tipton Timonium, Maryland Sale. He didn't sell for all that much money. He only sold for $120,000. He worked :10 3/5. I wasn't crazy about the work. I thought it was mediocre at best. I don't think other people were particularly impressed either or else he would have sold for a lot more than $120,000, being a half to Smarty.