Dreaming of Anna Workout

[Scav]

She is already ready for the new year.....Calabrese doesn't have a clue what to do with here regarding surface. But I am damn certain that he wants to win the Beverly D with her

Horse name Dreaming of Anna
Notes Calabrese nut horse
Activity type Workout
Activity date 12-29-2006
Track Palm Meadows
Surface Turf
Distance 4 Furlongs
Workout type Handily
Workout time 0:47.60
Track condition Firm

[Pointg5]

Keep her on turf, she won't win another G1 on dirt again, unless all of those slow horses show up again, which is a possibility...

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by Pointg5

Keep her on turf, she won't win another G1 on dirt again, unless all of those slow horses show up again, which is a possibility...

based on how both she and her brother has run on dirt, and the fact that she is immensely more talented than he is -- there is absolutely zero reason to believe she won't take more grade I dirt races.

[Pointg5]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

based on how both she and her brother has run on dirt, and the fact that she is immensely more talented than he is -- there is absolutely zero reason to believe she won't take more grade I dirt races.

Like I said if the other slow horses show up again, she would have a chance, but that's the only way...Controlling speed on the best part of the track and didn't run that fast...I guess Bernardini didn't teach enough people their lesson...

[sumitas]

Handily
what does "Handily" mean as far as this workout goes ?

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by Pointg5

Like I said if the other slow horses show up again, she would have a chance, but that's the only way...Controlling speed on the best part of the track and didn't run that fast...I guess Bernardini didn't teach enough people their lesson...

Friendly wager? You name the reasonable price that she won't win a dirt grade I, and I'll take it.

I can't think of any 2yo filly that I would take over her in any race right now, and unless one comes out of the woodwork, there certainly won't be any worrying about her chances of taking down another. You say "if the other slow horses show up again...." -- who exactly are the "fast" horses that she's been dodging?

She's been controlling speed in every race she's ever run. Of course, that's what happens when you're the fastest filly around.

[Pointg5]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

Friendly wager? You name the reasonable price that she won't win a dirt grade I, and I'll take it.

I can't think of any 2yo filly that I would take over her in any race right now, and unless one comes out of the woodwork, there certainly won't be any worrying about her chances of taking down another. You say "if the other slow horses show up again...." -- who exactly are the "fast" horses that she's been dodging?

She's been controlling speed in every race she's ever run. Of course, that's what happens when you're the fastest filly around.

Fast is relative I guess...

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by Pointg5

Fast is relative I guess...

ok, "fast," "good," "capable of winning a dirt grade I over Dreaming Of Anna?"

However you wish to frame it, name me some horses that are going to stop her from winning one....

[sumitas]

Handily, as in without discomfort i spose.

[Scav]

Handily means somewhat urged throughout the work. Breezed means they were out galvanting around.

Best way to describe the two is that Handily is when more energy or (exercution ?) is used. I can't think of the word.

[sumitas]

she put up a good time for the work.

[Bravado2112]

I don't think she's any potential superstar on dirt and I think she'll ultimately get beat, but I don't see why this is even a debate.

Given that it's generally more lucrative, prestigious, valuable etc to win major dirt races, I think it's logical to keep her on the dirt and try to win a couple of the major races for 3 yo fillies. If she gets beat a couple of times and starts to look like she isn't a division leader on the dirt, then go back to the turf where she'll probably excel. The turf is always there as an option. Similar situation to Barbaro. All things equal, it's much more meaningful to win the Kentucky Oaks or the Alabama versus the American Oaks or the Del Mar Oaks.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by Bravado2112

I don't think she's any potential superstar on dirt and I think she'll ultimately get beat, but I don't see why this is even a debate.

Given that it's generally more lucrative, prestigious, valuable etc to win major dirt races, I think it's logical to keep her on the dirt and try to win a couple of the major races for 3 yo fillies. If she gets beat a couple of times and starts to look like she isn't a division leader on the dirt, then go back to the turf where she'll probably excel. The turf is always there as an option. Similar situation to Barbaro. All things equal, it's much more meaningful to win the Kentucky Oaks or the Alabama versus the American Oaks or the Del Mar Oaks.

Calabrese has balls the size of a elephant so don't be surprised if she has a good spring to see her in the Kentucky Derby, and not the Oaks

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by Bravado2112

I don't think she's any potential superstar on dirt and I think she'll ultimately get beat, but I don't see why this is even a debate.

Given that it's generally more lucrative, prestigious, valuable etc to win major dirt races, I think it's logical to keep her on the dirt and try to win a couple of the major races for 3 yo fillies. If she gets beat a couple of times and starts to look like she isn't a division leader on the dirt, then go back to the turf where she'll probably excel. The turf is always there as an option. Similar situation to Barbaro. All things equal, it's much more meaningful to win the Kentucky Oaks or the Alabama versus the American Oaks or the Del Mar Oaks.

well said. obviously she will ultimately get beat -- i don't think anyone has advocated the idea that she will be some sort of undefeated legend.

i just find it silly to say that she won't win a grade I dirt race again. i'd be honestly shocked if she didn't win at LEAST one more, i'd be willing to bet on two or more.

[paisjpq]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Yeah but there aren't exactly a lot of grade 1's for 3 year old fillies. I believe the Ashland is the first of the season, KY oaks and then the series at Belmont. She may very well get a few more in her career, but I think she would be better off going back to the turf.

actually there are 13 grade 1's for 3 YO fillies on dirt...while there are only 3 Grade 1's for 3 YO fillies on turf

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

I am just in the camp that feels as though she will be better off on the turf.

I believe that she's a much better horse on the turf -- but there still shouldn't be any reason that she won't win a Grade I on dirt from here out -- especially because Calabrese was entertaining the idea of sending her to California early next year for the Grade I races out there.

Would make her worth a ton more, plus taking a grade I out in California should be a proverbial piece of cake for a horse like her next year. I mean, what's she got to beat out West? The blazing stretch run of Quick Little Miss?

She'd cakewalk over most of those horses.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

I counted 11 on dirt. Las Virgenes, SA Oaks, Ashland, KY Oaks, Acorn, Mother Goose, CCA Oaks, Test, Alabama, Gazelle, La Brea. What am I missing? I am aware there are more grade 1's on dirt than turf for her to try and get, I am just in the camp that feels as though she will be better off on the turf.

Prioress...

[paisjpq]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

I counted 11 on dirt. Las Virgenes, SA Oaks, Ashland, KY Oaks, Acorn, Mother Goose, CCA Oaks, Test, Alabama, Gazelle, La Brea. What am I missing? I am aware there are more grade 1's on dirt than turf for her to try and get, I am just in the camp that feels as though she will be better off on the turf.

I was actually wrong as I was thinking that the QE2 is on the dirt but it's turf...so there are 4 turf g1's...
you forgot the prioress...which @ 6f prolly isn't a race she would point for anyway...
and I agree that she's realistically a better turf horse...but given the class of 2YO fillies on dirt this year I think she has a reasonable chance to win another g1 on dirt next year if she remains against her own age group.

[blackthroatedwind]

I for one will be surprised if she wins another Grade 1 on the dirt. I guess if the competition remains bad, and she gets loose on the lead again over a speedway, then anything is possible, but I still haven't seen her run an even remotely good dirt race.

I have no idea what is appealing about her future on the dirt. Her BC race was mediocre at best.

[GPK]

my girl works...and over the grass to boot...

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