The one thing that scares me

ateamstupid · #1 11-01-2006, 02:40 PM

About Bernardini's post..

3 Bernardini Javier Castellano Tom Albertrani Even
4 George Washington (IRE) Mick Kinane Aidan P. O'Brien 10-1

I have no confidence that a Coolmore horse is going to let a Darley horse (especially a monster Darley horse) get off to a clean break. None. This worries me considerably.

TitanSooner · #2 11-01-2006, 02:42 PM

Interesting thought..

but why comprimise the chance of their own horse.. especially one of GW's caliber.

ateamstupid · #3 11-01-2006, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by TitanSooner

Interesting thought..

but why comprimise the chance of their own horse.. especially one of GW's caliber.

Veering in at the start doesn't really compromise the chances of GW, or at least the effect it would have on GW pales in comparison to the amount of damage it could possibly do to Bernardini.

I've heard the explanation for running in the BCC rather than the BCM as being "Winning the BCM would not do as much for his stud value".. I believe that's partly true, but I feel like the other reason is to see if they can beat the supposedly invincible Darley horse.

All I'm saying is watch the break closely. I hope I'm wrong and no funny business goes on, but I'm leery.

dalakhani · #4 11-01-2006, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Veering in at the start doesn't really compromise the chances of GW, or at least the effect it would have on GW pales in comparison to the amount of damage it could possibly do to Bernardini.

I've heard the explanation for running in the BCC rather than the BCM as being "Winning the BCM would not do as much for his stud value".. I believe that's partly true, but I feel like the other reason is to see if they can beat the supposedly invincible Darley horse.

All I'm saying is watch the break closely. I hope I'm wrong and no funny business goes on, but I'm leery.

It can potentially do damage to BOTH horses and could lead to possible injury. They arent going to try that with a horse as valuable as GW.

ateamstupid · #5 11-01-2006, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani

It can potentially do damage to BOTH horses and could lead to possible injury. They arent going to try that with a horse as valuable as GW.

Right. We'll see.

hoovesupsideyourhead · #6 11-01-2006, 03:11 PM

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Right. We'll see.

lobster horse runs in the ninth at aq...

Cajungator26 · #7 11-01-2006, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani

It can potentially do damage to BOTH horses and could lead to possible injury. They arent going to try that with a horse as valuable as GW.

I agree. I think it's pretty obvious that entering GW in the classic was a chance for Coolmore to try and beat the Sheik's, but I highly doubt they'd injure their own horse to do it.

#8 11-01-2006, 02:55 PM

Yeah I think the Coolmore gang are the lowlife pieces of **** in this rivalry.

SCUDSBROTHER · #9 11-01-2006, 02:50 PM

BTW,does anybody know the story about what went on with Librettist in the QE2? That trip,and real obvious intentional bump coming into straightaway was no accident,and I remember Dettori was furious about it.

SniperSB23 · #10 11-01-2006, 02:55 PM

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BTW,does anybody know the story about what went on with Librettist in the QE2? That trip,and real obvious intentional bump coming into straightaway was no accident,and I remember Dettori was furious about it.

I may be wrong here but from what I recall they used their lesser value horse to do the dirty work to help their more valuable horse. I can't see them risking a horse like GW just to try and take out Bernardini.

2MinsToPost · #11 11-01-2006, 02:57 PM

will dini favor inside rail trip or swing out a little and check back in after the dust settles at start?

ateamstupid · #12 11-01-2006, 02:57 PM

Wow.. Who says GW gets injured? Every time I watch a break where one horse comes in on the other, the inside horse is ALWAYS the one worse for the wear. Always.

dellinger63 · #13 11-01-2006, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid

About Bernardini's post..

3 Bernardini Javier Castellano Tom Albertrani Even
4 George Washington (IRE) Mick Kinane Aidan P. O'Brien 10-1

I have no confidence that a Coolmore horse is going to let a Darley horse (especially a monster Darley horse) get off to a clean break. None. This worries me considerably.

Man I completely agree and I don't think CD stewards can do anything to Kinane but deal with his placement in this race.

dalakhani · #14 11-01-2006, 02:48 PM

and they are really going to sacrifice a horse of GW's caliber in order to play spoiler in a 4 million plus race? Come on.

Save the excuses for when he loses.

LARHAGE · #15 11-01-2006, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid

About Bernardini's post..

3 Bernardini Javier Castellano Tom Albertrani Even
4 George Washington (IRE) Mick Kinane Aidan P. O'Brien 10-1

I have no confidence that a Coolmore horse is going to let a Darley horse (especially a monster Darley horse) get off to a clean break. None. This worries me considerably.

I think the only chance George Washington has is to knock Bernardini down, but let's be realistic here, who was the last European horse to NOT break 15 lengths behind the field in the Breeders Cup?

I will say Bernardini looks absolutely gorgeous and on the muscle on the Bloodhorse page, he looks like he's ready to rumble. I say he wins on Saturday rather comfortably, although I sure won't be disappointed if Lava Man or Brother Derek were to upset, I always cheer for the hometeam.

Downthestretch55 · #16 11-01-2006, 04:45 PM

I'll chime in on this one for my two pennies worth.
Of course there's plenty of talent.
That said, in my humble opinion, it comes down to a "jockey race".
The horses have the "stuff" but it takes a rider with smarts to find it.
We'll see.
I haven't made up my mind yet on my bets, but I'm not looking at peds in this one. Some are capable genetics-wise.
The savy of the jocks will "tell the tale".
Should be interesting....look for "value" and riders that know how to "bring out the best...and a little bit more."

Revolution · #17 11-01-2006, 04:47 PM

I wouldn't be scared of George Washington's post, I would be scared if he likes the dirt. If he does, Bernardini might be in trouble.

Crown@club · #18 11-01-2006, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid

About Bernardini's post..

3 Bernardini Javier Castellano Tom Albertrani Even
4 George Washington (IRE) Mick Kinane Aidan P. O'Brien 10-1

I have no confidence that a Coolmore horse is going to let a Darley horse (especially a monster Darley horse) get off to a clean break. None. This worries me considerably.

Nothing to worry about. Dini will fly out of the gate, while GW will walk out of the gate.