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Old 10-22-2006, 10:34 AM
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Surprised no one commented about FC's race. This horse is done! Shows none of the spirit of old, does not want to win and should at least be allowed to spend the rest of his days in the life style he diserves. Maybe he can have an operation and put that thing back on so he can have some fun.
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Old 10-22-2006, 10:43 AM
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Surprised no one commented about FC's race. This horse is done! Shows none of the spirit of old, does not want to win and should at least be allowed to spend the rest of his days in the life style he diserves. Maybe he can have an operation and put that thing back on so he can have some fun.
I agree. Funny Cide deserves to be retired and live out his years in lush green pastures. He's run longer and harder than many.
I hope his connections do the right thing for the horse.
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Old 10-22-2006, 10:56 AM
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First off, I never play internet horse trainer or anything of the like. I've never spent any time around this horse and can only go on what I've seen of him on the track. I haven't seen anything to the effect, but for all I know he could have bled, been sick and scoped bad, etc. -- meaning there could be some sort of excuse. Regardless, in this case, it doesn't matter.

Whether there is or not, no way they should take a shot in the Cigar. Even when this horse is at 100% -- today -- he cannot compete with the top tier, open, G1 class of horses. I think he has shown that. Now there is nothing wrong with that. There is no shame in not being at the top of the game. Racing this horse in G1's is not smart and won't be popular either. It will cause the end to arrive much sooner.

Yesterday's performance certainly wasn't up to expectation, but, what did he get beat -- a couple of lengths? He came back on a bit in the stretch. Sure, he lacked any full finish or late kick. I don't want to see this come to the 2005 Suburban. That was very sad. This horse looked like he wanted no part of racing, perhaps not even any part of the track. He did outclass the field in Canada recently so I am not sure that is reflective of this horse being able to compete in G3's.

If he is healthy and right, he can probably compete against the NY breds. Maybe yesterday wasn't a true indication of where he is in his career. If it is -- then it is time to retire him.

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Old 10-22-2006, 11:00 AM
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Now I'm no Funny Side supporter (or apologist) but I don't see how the Empire Classic is proof of anything. It was an aberrant ride by Velasquez, strangling him back out of his preferred style and taking him wide. The horse is probably done but I think he was taken so far out of his game yesterday that it's hard to draw such absolute conclusions. And is Organizer really "the best" of the NY breds? It was a weird race.
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Old 10-22-2006, 11:25 AM
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I think FC was done after his effort in Preakness 2003 !!!!
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Old 10-22-2006, 11:43 AM
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I agree with the Mile but GUN him from the gate and let him look other horses in the eye on the lead, he might stay then
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Old 10-22-2006, 11:47 AM
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Funny Cide kinda reminds me of Mike Tyson. Maybe he should go on an exhibition tour and then off to greener pastures.
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Old 10-22-2006, 08:33 PM
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I think FC was done after his effort in Preakness 2003 !!!!
that is just crazy. he had a very good campaign as a 4yo in which he hit the board in a lot of graded stakes racess and won two of them..........including the G1 JCGC.

even this year as an over-the-hill 6yo he has won a couple of stakes races. he may be done now....but done after the '03 preakness.....no.
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Old 10-22-2006, 12:10 PM
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Now I'm no Funny Side supporter (or apologist) but I don't see how the Empire Classic is proof of anything. It was an aberrant ride by Velasquez, strangling him back out of his preferred style and taking him wide. The horse is probably done but I think he was taken so far out of his game yesterday that it's hard to draw such absolute conclusions. And is Organizer really "the best" of the NY breds? It was a weird race.
I totally agree ( though I am guessing the writer meant abhorrent ). All of Funny Cide's good races have been on the engine, something Mig figured out, and with the scratches yesterday there was very little pace....so what did Corny do....strangled him into submission and took away his edge. Would he have won? I don't know, but he certainly wasn't given a fair chance.
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Old 10-22-2006, 12:13 PM
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Nope. I meant aberrant, though abhorrent works too.
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Old 10-22-2006, 12:15 PM
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Nope. I meant aberrant, though abhorrent works too.
I always liked " abhor "...works for me.

Can a jockey ever give an "aberrant " ride....other than Kent Desormeaux giving a good ride?
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Old 10-22-2006, 01:15 PM
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Default Spite the Devil is he done?

Spite the Devil finished up the track somewhere. Is he done? How about Naughty New Yorker he finished 6th. Is he done too?? If Funny Cide deserves retirement for finishing 4th, then you should demand retirement from anyone that finishes behind him!
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Old 10-22-2006, 01:27 PM
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Spite the Devil finished up the track somewhere. Is he done? How about Naughty New Yorker he finished 6th. Is he done too?? If Funny Cide deserves retirement for finishing 4th, then you should demand retirement from anyone that finishes behind him!
This is grossly inaccurate. Most people on this board wanted to see Funny Cide retired to enjoy the rest of his life and get away from the grind that is racing. He has given so much to the fans of the sport, many enjoyable races and great memories. I know a good amount of people who became fans watching Funny Cide run to the Triple Crown, both on the talent he exerted and the great story he carried with him.

I think it is obvious this horse has given almost close to all he has for his owners and fans. It's time for someone to give back to him, and take him off the track to spend a life befitting of the champion he is.
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Old 10-22-2006, 01:38 PM
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This is grossly inaccurate. Most people on this board wanted to see Funny Cide retired to enjoy the rest of his life and get away from the grind that is racing. He has given so much to the fans of the sport, many enjoyable races and great memories. I know a good amount of people who became fans watching Funny Cide run to the Triple Crown, both on the talent he exerted and the great story he carried with him.

I think it is obvious this horse has given almost close to all he has for his owners and fans. It's time for someone to give back to him, and take him off the track to spend a life befitting of the champion he is.
Well said Suffolk! Here here!
What Funny Cide has done for NY breds deserves respect.
I vote to let him graze. He's done more than enough.
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Old 10-22-2006, 02:53 PM
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Soo all of you are saying.....

As long as you don't win the Kentucky Derby....

It's OK to grind? Spite the Devil is just as old as FC and it's okay for him to grind just because he didn't win the Derby?

In my opinion, every horse deserves importance....and if you think a 6 year old who just finished 4th by 1 and a half lengths in a stakes deserves retirement, then there are far more that deserve it as well.
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Old 10-22-2006, 03:01 PM
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that's for sure...geesh, he can't win every race for cryin out loud...http://www.racereplays.com/nybreds/i...name=20060430a
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Old 10-22-2006, 04:46 PM
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Soo all of you are saying.....

As long as you don't win the Kentucky Derby....

It's OK to grind? Spite the Devil is just as old as FC and it's okay for him to grind just because he didn't win the Derby?

In my opinion, every horse deserves importance....and if you think a 6 year old who just finished 4th by 1 and a half lengths in a stakes deserves retirement, then there are far more that deserve it as well.
You are totally missing the point. This is not based on one race. This is based on a body of work. As time has gone on, the horse is not what he used to be, and has shown signs of disinterest in racing. Alot of people who know more than you and I have said the same. There is a time to realize when the button has been pushed too many times. Nobody is saying he should be retired because he lost by a length or two in the Empire Classic.
We are saying that over the last two years, his performances have regressed and is clearly not the level horse that can compete too much in graded company.

This isnt a knock on the horse, nor is it a statement that he cant continue to race for smaller purses NY bred stakes. He certainly can. But, what is the gain, other than money?

At this point its just selfish keeping the horse out there hoping to pull down some extra cash for the owners. He has already given a whole lot to Sackatoga, and it's time they gave to him for once.
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Old 10-22-2006, 06:12 PM
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Funny Cides owners have done a fabulous job spotting his races. They should get a special eclipse for really being sharp. Poor Barclay and Poor Funny Cide, they are at the hands of the owners.
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Old 10-22-2006, 06:15 PM
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Funny has made $240,000 this year. He also has more wins and more 100+ Beyer's than Perfect Drift has this year. So Funny Cide needs to retire and Perfect Drift is going to hit the board in the Classic? I just don't get it. We should be thrilled that any stakes horses are racing 10 times a year, not to mention a dual classic winner racing 10 times in a year.
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Old 10-22-2006, 06:16 PM
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PD wouldnt have won any of the races Funny has ran in this year.
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