US Timeform triple crown figs

[Benny]

https://timeformus.files.wordpress.c...9-42-00-am.png

aand this past weeks figs

https://4njbets.tvg.com/blog/2015/04...eek-april-5th/

[cakes44]

Not big fans of American Pharoah it seems.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by cakes44

Not big fans of American Pharoah it seems.

he's also just had one cakewalk outing in like six months.

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by cakes44

Not big fans of American Pharoah it seems.

The Racing Post doesn't like Dortmund either.

http://www.racingpost.com/news/horse...=last7DaysNews

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by cakes44

Not big fans of American Pharoah it seems.

His 100 as a 2yo was really good, not much to go on since. The Rebel was a slow paced paid workout, can't take much either way from that.

[Thunder Gulch]

CM, have you guys gone back in time any to develop par pace and final figures for Derbies gone by, or is that too difficult of an exercise to put time into. I'm just wondering because I see those figures and don't have much context to see how fast this group is. I've made the switch to TFUS over the past 18 mos. It sure seems to me (Beyer/TG) they collectively one of the fastest in a decade.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

His 100 as a 2yo was really good, not much to go on since. The Rebel was a slow paced paid workout, can't take much either way from that.

Let's see what the Arky Derby brings. Big buzz around him and I am the sucker who believes it. What makes this Derby especially interesting is a few have proven to be very talented and this colt adds to the drama

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by Thunder Gulch

CM, have you guys gone back in time any to develop par pace and final figures for Derbies gone by, or is that too difficult of an exercise to put time into. I'm just wondering because I see those figures and don't have much context to see how fast this group is. I've made the switch to TFUS over the past 18 mos. It sure seems to me (Beyer/TG) they collectively one of the fastest in a decade.

It takes a 110-115 to win the Derby, thought that doesn't necessarily mean the winner was running those figures before the Derby of course.