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Old 09-19-2012, 09:33 AM
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Default Mother Jones admits Romney vid is not complete

After releasing the full tape, then back tracking:

>>>Late Tuesday evening, Jacobson obtained the following comment from David Corn of Mother Jones:

According to the source, the recording device inadvertently turned off. The source noticed this quickly and turned it back one [sic]. The source estimates that one to two minutes, maybe less, of recording was missed.

Corn was forced to update his original post, which promised the "full" video, to reflect the fact that a key portion of the video is, in fact, missing.

There is no way to know, without the missing footage, exactly what Romney said. On Monday evening, Romney called for a complete video of his remarks to be released.<<<



http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journal...or-Two-Minutes

After time to re-watch this, I'm finding what he said, especially in light of the attempted smear job, fairly innocuous.

My take is that he was referring to people not paying taxes that are benefiting for social reforms that provide said benefits.

And that's probably true for the most part.

He never said that retirees drawing off their SS benefits were freeloaders, he never said disabled vets were free loaders, and may well have clarified those remarks, we'll never know due to this hatchet job.

The remarks about Palestine and mid-east are also spot on, though admittedly blunt and not particularly well phrased.


I still don't think there is a chance in hell that I'll vote for him, but this is pretty shady journalism and for the MSM to run with it without verifying it's veracity seems par for the course.
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Old 09-19-2012, 09:46 AM
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Of course it was a verbal mistake. I understood what he was saying although he said it like a college freshman that just got out of PoliSci 101.

He's fair game. All politicians are.

At least he was being honest. A rare moment for his ilk.

People are probably upset because what he's saying has some truth to it. And that is very disconcerting for those of us unfortunate ones who are paying taxes.
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Old 09-19-2012, 10:05 AM
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Of course it was a verbal mistake. I understood what he was saying although he said it like a college freshman that just got out of PoliSci 101.

He's fair game. All politicians are.

At least he was being honest. A rare moment for his ilk.

People are probably upset because what he's saying has some truth to it. And that is very disconcerting for those of us unfortunate ones who are paying taxes.
Facts make people sad, no one likes to be confronted with reality. Especially during an election.
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Old 09-19-2012, 02:51 PM
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Unless that couple minutes gap, which is obvious both in the transcript and on watching the tape, in the middle of the talk, contains the words,

"Ha Ha Ha, I am just kidding about everything I have said before, and after this ! "

it has zero bearing on what Romney has clearly said in the tape.

Romney is an entitled plutocrat, that doesn't have a clue how most of America lives, and honestly believes the lie that 47% of non-taxpaying Americans are exactly how he disparagingly described them.

And you know, I've known a lot of well-off people, and no, they are not all cold idiots like Romney.

Romney already lost the election before Libya, Libya exposed him and sealed the coffin lid, this is just more nails n his coffin.

That the GOP let this guy get through to be their nominee is as recklessly appalling for the country as the Palin choice was.
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Old 09-19-2012, 07:47 PM
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What a coincidence that the video stops right after Romney says 47%! Of all the places for such an accident, what are the odds of that? So sad that The liberal media needs to alter videos in a desperate effort to reelect their dear leader.
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Old 09-19-2012, 07:56 PM
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Just so we are all clear Riot, you said the election turned on some comments that Romney said about Libya??? People put that the importance of that statement over the economy? It doesn't matter that Obama has failed us with both his domestic and foreign policy? People will give him four more years because of what Romney said about Libya?

Of course your statement is complete nonsense as Romney was only a point behind Obama in today's Gallup which means he has gained ground since that statement.
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Old 09-19-2012, 08:44 PM
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What a coincidence that the video stops right after Romney says 47%!
It doesn't.

You haven't listened to it, have you? You haven't read the transcript, have you?

Hint: WND, Drudge, The Blaze, and Breitbart tend to lie to the gullible.

Romney Video Claim Debunked
http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2012...video-debunked

Mostly aggregation from other news sources. Oh - and the original transcript and tape links for Sockpuppet to read and watch.

For example: What the entire "it's been selectively edited" claim is based upon:
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The Romney campaign was clearly implying the whole video was rubbish. But there's a slight problem. Politico's Dylan Byers, the source for the debunking charge, quickly noted that he had done no such thing. He wrote:

there is nothing in my report that "debunks" the video.
Just amazing, the rabid right doesn't even bother watch the video themselves before they grab a half-quote from here and a lie from there, and let loose the flying monkeys. Unbelievable. But why those sites have no respect as "journalism". And their blind adherents repeatedly end up looking like ignorant fools.
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Old 09-19-2012, 09:58 AM
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After releasing the full tape, then back tracking:

>>>Late Tuesday evening, Jacobson obtained the following comment from David Corn of Mother Jones:

According to the source, the recording device inadvertently turned off. The source noticed this quickly and turned it back one [sic]. The source estimates that one to two minutes, maybe less, of recording was missed.

Corn was forced to update his original post, which promised the "full" video, to reflect the fact that a key portion of the video is, in fact, missing.

There is no way to know, without the missing footage, exactly what Romney said. On Monday evening, Romney called for a complete video of his remarks to be released.<<<



http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journal...or-Two-Minutes

After time to re-watch this, I'm finding what he said, especially in light of the attempted smear job, fairly innocuous.

My take is that he was referring to people not paying taxes that are benefiting for social reforms that provide said benefits.

And that's probably true for the most part.

He never said that retirees drawing off their SS benefits were freeloaders, he never said disabled vets were free loaders, and may well have clarified those remarks, we'll never know due to this hatchet job.

The remarks about Palestine and mid-east are also spot on, though admittedly blunt and not particularly well phrased.


I still don't think there is a chance in hell that I'll vote for him, but this is pretty shady journalism and for the MSM to run with it without verifying it's veracity seems par for the course.
You would think maybe Romney would mention that happened to him? That would have been an easy and plausible explanation. Not that hard to come up with that one.
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