Big money at Canterbury

rgustafson · #1 06-23-2012, 04:12 PM

The money poured in today on a 3yr. old Minnesota bread named Heliskier, a starter in a stakes race restricted to Minnesota breds. When the betting was done there was over $218,000 to win and $51,000 to show on the horse. He drew off to win easily. If you are familiar with Canterbury, you know that these pools were mind boggling. Many times, not this much money is bet on a complete race card.

pmayjr · #2 06-23-2012, 04:32 PM

Gosh that is the truth... Bridge-jumper?

I wasn't there today but even when I am there I normally just simulcast. Our live racing just doesn't seem to offer too many good betting opportunities. Maybe the increased purse sizes will help with that.

#3 06-23-2012, 04:34 PM

The owner Marlene Colvin has had only 16 starters since 2000 winning 9 with 3 seconds and 3 thirds. So 15 of her 16 starters were ITM.

Calzone Lord · #4 06-23-2012, 04:35 PM

http://www1.drf.com/drfPDFChartRaces...=20120623&RN=5

The 2nd choice in the race was 52-to-1. The 3rd choice was 141-to-1. The 4th choice was 220-to-1.

He ran very fast in his 3yo comeback race and had a huge edge on paper.

He's like the Minnesota Bred Pepper's Pride. This was a 50K Minny Bred stake and I doubt you have any Minny Bred up and comers laying in wait.

If they keep him in with Minny Breds, he won't be losing anytime soon.

The main horse racing columnist for Sports Illustrated (a serious general sports magazine publication) rated Pepper's Pride one of the 20 best horses of the last decade. If they handle this horse the same way, Sports Illustrated may call this horse the best anyone has seen since Man O' War.

GPK · #5 06-23-2012, 04:39 PM

That horse must be something special. It beat Bernie Butler.

Calzone Lord · #6 06-23-2012, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

http://www1.drf.com/drfPDFChartRaces...=20120623&RN=5

I can just see a dopey guy in an OTB right now...

Hey, I've got the trifecta with a 52/1 finishing 2nd and a 99/1 finishing 3rd!

And see him letdown when the prices come up and his trifecta only pays $3.30 for a buck.

Indian Charlie · #7 06-23-2012, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

I can just see a dopey guy in an OTB right now...

Hey, I've got the trifecta with a 52/1 finishing 2nd and a 99/1 finishing 3rd!

And see him letdown when the prices come up and his trifecta only pays $3.30 for a buck.

You go easy on Pmay!

rgustafson · #8 06-23-2012, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

http://www1.drf.com/drfPDFChartRaces...=20120623&RN=5

The 2nd choice in the race was 52-to-1. The 3rd choice was 141-to-1. The 4th choice was 220-to-1.

He ran very fast in his 3yo comeback race and had a huge edge on paper.

He's like the Minnesota Bred Pepper's Pride. This was a 50K Minny Bred stake and I doubt you have any Minny Bred up and comers laying in wait.

If they keep him in with Minny Breds, he won't be losing anytime soon.

The main horse racing columnist for Sports Illustrated (a serious general sports magazine publication) rated Pepper's Pride one of the 20 best horses of the last decade. If they handle this horse the same way, Sports Illustrated may call this horse the best anyone has seen since Man O' War.

Thanks for chiming in Doug. Not a lot of choices restricted to Mn. breds left in the meet. Appealing Skier, his sire, a multiple graded stakes winning sprinter including the Withers at one mile. Not many on this board are familiar with the dam, Plana Dance, but she did win at 1 1/8 miles on the turf at Canterbury in her racing career so I think stretching out and the turf would be options. The Blairs Cove stakes at 1 1/16 miles on the grass is restricted to Mn. breds but it comes up on July 3rd, only ten days. The Minnesota Derby is one mile 70 yards on the dirt, but not until August 11th. Now if they really wanted to push the envelope there is a race for three year olds at a mile on the turf on July 28th, a new stakes called the Mystic Lake Derby with a purse of $150,000 thanks to money from the Indians. This is not a state bred race and without knowing what other turf stakes are available that weekend could attract some real good three yr. old turfers from all over.

Calzone Lord · #9 06-23-2012, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

You go easy on Pmay!

Pmay crushed that tri.

Did you see the pedigree of the winner of the 3yo Minn bred fillies stake one race earlier?

By Leroidesanameaux out of an Indian Charlie mare. Your type of breeding, for a Minny bred. They got her some cheap black type.

rgustafson · #10 06-23-2012, 07:23 PM

Just read on the Canterbury blog that just before the horses were off somebody placed a $150,000 win wager. Don't know where it originated.

3kings · #11 06-23-2012, 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

I can just see a dopey guy in an OTB right now...

Hey, I've got the trifecta with a 52/1 finishing 2nd and a 99/1 finishing 3rd!

And see him letdown when the prices come up and his trifecta only pays $3.30 for a buck.

This is so true. Then a rant about how the race must have been fixed.

Calzone Lord · #12 06-23-2012, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by rgustafson

Just read on the Canterbury blog that just before the horses were off somebody placed a $150,000 win wager. Don't know where it originated.

Why not do a $150,000 show wager instead? You know you'll get $2.10 either way.

The chart says the horse brushed the 3rd place finisher out of the gate.

It's only a 3yo with three prior starts under him. Imagine how sick the guy would have felt if he had fouled someone and was placed 3rd by DQ.

pmayjr · #13 06-23-2012, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

You go easy on Pmay!

Pfft. I got shut out at the window because I took too much time putting my $2 win bet on Black Caviar

rgustafson · #14 06-24-2012, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

Why not do a $150,000 show wager instead? You know you'll get $2.10 either way.

The chart says the horse brushed the 3rd place finisher out of the gate.

It's only a 3yo with three prior starts under him. Imagine how sick the guy would have felt if he had fouled someone and was placed 3rd by DQ.

I understand the wager was placed through a TVG account. Maybe Todd and Matt(two former Canterbury guys) pooled theie life savings.

rgustafson · #15 07-22-2012, 06:09 PM

They did it again today. Roughly $232,000 to win on Heliskier and $210,000 to show on him. He won for fun without being asked, another race restricted to Minnesota breds.

Scav · #16 07-23-2012, 06:47 PM

Cantebury has an 7.75% rebate through one of the shops that I know of, so he is making 25k per bet (15k rebate and 10k cash). Some specific shops have a 2.10 rule but some don't

So this guy has made 100k if he put 200k win/show both times

rgustafson · #17 07-23-2012, 07:07 PM

Yes, I was sure rebates had to explain some of these wagers. I wonder if some places give them on win bets but not on show bets. I have played Canterbury since it opened as I live in the area and the only other time I recall anything similar to this was the time or two that Who Doctor Who ran here and I'm pretty sure at that point in time you had to show up at the track with a briefcase full of money.