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Old 12-01-2011, 04:57 PM
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http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...takes-for-2012

Four new Grade Is including the Breeders' Cup Juvenile Fillies Turf and Turf Sprint.

NYRA loses two Grade Is, the Hopeful and Ruffian.
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Old 12-01-2011, 05:09 PM
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Good news for Parx.
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Old 12-02-2011, 02:59 PM
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Good news for Parx.
It sure is. Good to see the Smarty Jones get graded.
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Old 12-01-2011, 05:40 PM
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http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...takes-for-2012

Four new Grade Is including the Breeders' Cup Juvenile Fillies Turf and Turf Sprint.

NYRA loses two Grade Is, the Hopeful and Ruffian.
The Marvin is like a Grade 2+++++..Arguable the best G3 in America.. If you made the Marvin a G1 there woud be 20 in the box for 250k in a minute
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Old 12-01-2011, 05:48 PM
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I feel better knowing that the Blue Grass remains a Grade 1.
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Old 12-01-2011, 05:54 PM
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How the F is the BEST 2 year old race ....The Hopeful not a G! at SPA
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Old 12-01-2011, 06:06 PM
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Old 12-01-2011, 06:20 PM
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How the F is the BEST 2 year old race ....The Hopeful not a G! at SPA
Everyone knows there is no good 2 year old racing at Saratoga...
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Old 12-01-2011, 06:51 PM
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Everyone knows there is no good 2 year old racing at Saratoga...
Yep we need to promote Keeneland and their SPECIAL horse healthy racing surface.. Shameful simply shameful ..Its the Hopeful for Christ sake..The winners of the Hopeful line the Hall of Fame..THE FN BREEDERS CUP JUVY SPRINTS ?
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Old 12-02-2011, 05:40 AM
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I feel better knowing that the Blue Grass remains a Grade 1.
Really? I mean the last 5 winners of the race have a total of 3 wins after their victory. Only Brilliant Speed won a graded race (3) . Stately Victor the non graded Ontario Derby. Dominican a allowance race at Presque Isle. General Quarters a few close calls but no wins. Anyone remember Monba? Da Truth i know you were tongue n cheek on your quote...
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Really? I mean the last 5 winners of the race have a total of 3 wins after their victory. Only Brilliant Speed won a graded race (3) . Stately Victor the non graded Ontario Derby. Dominican a allowance race at Presque Isle. General Quarters a few close calls but no wins. Anyone remember Monba? Da Truth i know you were tongue n cheek on your quote...
General Quarters followed his Bluegrass with a G1 win in the Woodford Reserve at CD on Derby Day 2010.
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The real problem with the Graded Stakes, is the absurd amount of Grade 1's on the island known as California.
Unless you consider all the rags Zenyatta beat worth of Grade 1 placing's.
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Old 12-02-2011, 07:31 PM
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General Quarters followed his Bluegrass with a G1 win in the Woodford Reserve at CD on Derby Day 2010.
My bad. How could i forget the retired school teacher winning on Derby Day. Great story!
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Old 12-01-2011, 06:19 PM
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The Marvin is like a Grade 2+++++..Arguable the best G3 in America.. If you made the Marvin a G1 there woud be 20 in the box for 250k in a minute
Actually this will probably reduce the race to a 5 horse field.
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Old 12-02-2011, 09:51 AM
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What is the justification for making the BC Juvie Fillies Turf a Grade 1 ( other than allowing them to justify keeping it's biggest prep, the Alcibiades, as a Grade 1 )?

How is the Spinster still a Grade 1?
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What is the justification for making the BC Juvie Fillies Turf a Grade 1 ( other than allowing them to justify keeping it's biggest prep, the Alcibiades, as a Grade 1 )?

How is the Spinster still a Grade 1?
Ditto the Blue Grass.
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What is the justification for making the BC Juvie Fillies Turf a Grade 1 ( other than allowing them to justify keeping it's biggest prep, the Alcibiades, as a Grade 1 )?

How is the Spinster still a Grade 1?
probably trying to draw euros. no other justification for it comes to mind. about half of the bc races shouldn't be graded at all.
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Old 12-02-2011, 12:59 PM
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probably trying to draw euros. no other justification for it comes to mind. about half of the bc races shouldn't be graded at all.
Races can't be Graded in an attempt to attract horses.
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Old 12-02-2011, 02:18 PM
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Races can't be Graded in an attempt to attract horses.
it just seems that this is what they're attempting to do. i know most bc races were grade 1 right from the start. i don't know what else can explain it.
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