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Old 01-05-2010, 09:17 PM
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I was wondering if anyone had a take on this.

Sad all the way around...

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Old 01-05-2010, 11:02 PM
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Not enough info to go on, but something about the horse seeing one vet and taking medication given by another doesn't add up.
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Old 01-06-2010, 06:08 AM
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The case is quite similar to what Dave Jacobson went through 28 years ago. He was trying to save Hugable Tom who was foundering, and followed a treatment path that some vets argued against. When the horse was ultimately put down, Jacobson faced cruelty charges brought on by the NYSRWB, and had the same attitude about how he was treating the horse as Kriple.

It's hard to believe that any state prosecutors would have any understanding of the nuances involved in these situations. As was the case with Jacobson, it seems Kriple felt he was doing the right things to try to save his horse. It's also a little tough to believe that anyone with horses at the track is engaging in criminal cruelty considering the parade of people around the barns and the help that would materialize if such a situation was developing. Just look at what the Turfway trainers did with the Clermont County horses that weren't even on the track...
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Old 01-06-2010, 07:44 AM
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not enough to tell but i kind of side with Kriple. this guy lives with his horses, i'm guessing he really loves them. the horse may be hurt and suffering but hes trying to save it. are they charging the owners of kip deville for keeping him alive? this story kind of smells funny but theres not enough to tell. whats amazing is how they prosecute people like this but some guy hiding on a farm not even feeding his horses gets away with it for years. The "justice" system for animals is as big a joke as the "justice" system for humans.
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Old 01-06-2010, 09:48 AM
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I think the person closest to the horse knows whether it's cruel or not, my mare had a severe bout of lamintis 5 years ago, she spent most of her day lying down on a heavy Bute regimen, I was just waiting for an appointment for a specialty hospital, BUT, my mare still had a bright expression and would nicker every time I came in her stall for her peppermint, she wasn't showing me she wanted to give up, and believe me they do, I finally got her into the Clinic where they informed me her chances were not good, I still insisted on surgery and after a long, long rocky road she is now a happy horse that can run and be turned out in her paddock every morning and enjoys her life. I know there are people who would have considered her early condition cruel, but I knew she wasn't ready to die and we fought and won.
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Old 01-07-2010, 08:11 AM
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I think the person closest to the horse knows whether it's cruel or not, my mare had a severe bout of lamintis 5 years ago, she spent most of her day lying down on a heavy Bute regimen, I was just waiting for an appointment for a specialty hospital, BUT, my mare still had a bright expression and would nicker every time I came in her stall for her peppermint, she wasn't showing me she wanted to give up, and believe me they do, I finally got her into the Clinic where they informed me her chances were not good, I still insisted on surgery and after a long, long rocky road she is now a happy horse that can run and be turned out in her paddock every morning and enjoys her life. I know there are people who would have considered her early condition cruel, but I knew she wasn't ready to die and we fought and won.
great post, i kind of felt kriple felt the same way but the story does not dig deep enough. people are too quick to give up in my opinion. it should be a very ,very grave situation before they charge a guy like this. we just don't get enough out of this story, which gives me the feeling that "someone" was after this man because hes different. animals and people are resilient, recoveries are sometimes unbelievable, maybe he saw this horse still had the will to live.
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