yeah, that Garret Gomez really Sucks

dalakhani · #1 08-16-2006, 04:09 PM

That ride he just gave Octave in the Adirondack was just total crap. I mean, it was just pure luck that Octace won at 9-1 and it was just dumb luck that Gomez sat off of a sizzling pace and had his horse in perfect position to pounce in midstretch.

Yeah, you guys are right...Gomez really sucks. Pletcher should find a smarter rider.

#2 08-16-2006, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani

That ride he just gave Octave in the Adirondack was just total crap. I mean, it was just pure luck that Octace won at 9-1 and it was just dumb luck that Gomez sat off of a sizzling pace and had his horse in perfect position to pounce in midstretch.

Yeah, you guys are right...Gomez really sucks. Pletcher should find a smarter rider.

Yeah it cracks me up too. The 2nd leading jockey in the US and people call him stupid. If he is stupid then what are the trainers that use him? I guess they are even more stupid because they employ a stupid rider.

whorstman · #3 08-16-2006, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by eurobounce

Yeah it cracks me up too. The 2nd leading jockey in the US and people call him stupid. If he is stupid then what are the trainers that use him? I guess they are even more stupid because they employ a stupid rider.

Yeah, they discussed that on ATRAB recently. I think b/c Gomez has had some issues in the past, people are generally harder on him. He is a very skilled rider who does tend to take some risks out there and sometimes they don't pan out.

GPK · #4 08-16-2006, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani

That ride he just gave Octave in the Adirondack was just total crap. I mean, it was just pure luck that Octace won at 9-1 and it was just dumb luck that Gomez sat off of a sizzling pace and had his horse in perfect position to pounce in midstretch.

Yeah, you guys are right...Gomez really sucks. Pletcher should find a smarter rider.

It was a great ride, but he was the benefit of a stupid ride by Jara.

Nostradamus · #5 08-16-2006, 04:19 PM

Gomez is a top 5 rider. I would only take J. Velasquez over him on dirt or turf and C. Velasquez on the turf.

AeWingnut · #6 08-16-2006, 05:00 PM

people are quick to give P Val a break and as far as I know Garret Gomez has not relapsed or fallen back into his drug habit.

He was winning plenty of races before and after a short time at the bottom has worked his way back up there.

I don' think Gomez is to blame for Ace losing the Millio

Now, Desormeaux.. I have no clue with him
so I guess we're even

dalakhani · #7 08-16-2006, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by AeWingnut

people are quick to give P Val a break and as far as I know Garret Gomez has not relapsed or fallen back into his drug habit.

He was winning plenty of races before and after a short time at the bottom has worked his way back up there.

I don' think Gomez is to blame for Ace losing the Millio

Now, Desormeaux.. I have no clue with him
so I guess we're even

Of course Gomez isnt to blame for ACE losing the million. The oldest cliche in racing "pace makes the race" and ACE needs a ton of it to be effective. All one had to do is look at the pps to know that ACE had little chance of winning the million.

SCUDSBROTHER · #8 08-16-2006, 05:09 PM

Yeah,it's true.Him winning on this 9-1 has cleansed my memory of T.M BLING's ride.It's as if it never happened.That race last week that Coa schooled him in didn't happen either.They pale in comparison to winning this race on a 9-1 filly in 1:19.

dalakhani · #9 08-16-2006, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

Yeah,it's true.Him winning on this 9-1 has cleansed my memory of T.M BLING's ride.It's as if it never happened.That race last week that Coa schooled him in didn't happen either.They pale in comparison to winning this race on a 9-1 filly in 1:19.

Have you ever even ridden a riding pony? Try it some time. No one ever said Gomez was perfect. He has his share of rides that are questionable just like all of the rest of them.

You bring up a ride on some horse that no one will remember a month from now. There are probably hundreds of others that he brought home that no one will bring up or remember later.

The fact of the matter is a "dumb" rider wouldnt have given that ride today. Heck, I would have loved to have seen all of you guys crying if Garret had ridden the 1 horse that Johnny V burned up before the turn. Not to say that it was JV's fault as he had little choice breaking from the rail. Just to say that Gomez seems to be under an unfair microscope and if you guys are going to point out every mistake he makes i figure i can point out the times he does a nice job.

SCUDSBROTHER · #10 08-16-2006, 05:24 PM

"You bring up a ride on some horse that no one will remember a month from now. "

Trust me.People don't forget bad rides,and people especially don't forget bad rides on the best horse in the race.They just don't.

dalakhani · #11 08-16-2006, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

"You bring up a ride on some horse that no one will remember a month from now. "

Trust me.People don't forget bad rides,and people especially don't forget bad rides on the best horse in the race.They just don't.

Bull****. if this were true, why would Baffert ride him again? Trainers forgive bad rides all the time. If not, there would be no one to ride the horses.

SCUDSBROTHER · #12 08-16-2006, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani

Bull****. if this were true, why would Baffert ride him again? Trainers forgive bad rides all the time. If not, there would be no one to ride the horses.

Yeah,because he uses him again,it means he doesn't remember the ride? Jock is off the hook with any Baffert from the 1 hole in a sprint like that.Jock could cut off half the field and Baffert would say it was all caused by the 1 hole,and that he takes the blame for even racing the horse at all from the 1 hole.Baffert thinks JEWS N' ARABS ARE FIGHTIN' CUZ OF THE 1 HOLE.

#13 08-16-2006, 10:42 PM

It was indeed pure luck and you obviously didnt see teh race if you don't know that. Gomez was "all in" on the turn pumping as hard as he could and losing ground behind the dueling leaders. They blistered fractions and he caught them late. Its also his first win since Friday. Gee, thats just swell. A guy riding nothing but live horses wins one race in 4 racing days, wow, he should go straight in the hall of fame for that one!!! LOL!!! Umm, how many guys is he trailing up here?

DiscreetCat=Monster · #14 08-16-2006, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by oracle80

It was indeed pure luck and you obviously didnt see teh race if you don't know that. Gomez was "all in" on the turn pumping as hard as he could and losing ground behind the dueling leaders. They blistered fractions and he caught them late. Its also his first win since Friday. Gee, thats just swell. A guy riding nothing but live horses wins one race in 4 racing days, wow, he should go straight in the hall of fame for that one!!! LOL!!! Umm, how many guys is he trailing up here?

I don't think he is trailing as many as 1st predicted, and considering its his 1st meet at Saratoga he has faired better than most. He is just a better rider than most.

2Hot4TV · #15 08-26-2006, 04:23 PM

Looks Pretty Good Today!

ArlJim78 · #16 08-26-2006, 04:27 PM

At this point, would it be appropriate to start referring to Gomez as "the King of Saratoga".

just wondering.

Scav · #17 08-26-2006, 04:31 PM

Did you hear Kenny Mayne be like "Gomez's 4th win today"

The first thing I thought of was Oracle and the 2nd thing I thought of "Is Kenny Maybe reading the board and DIGGING at Oracle"

#18 08-16-2006, 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by oracle80

It was indeed pure luck and you obviously didnt see teh race if you don't know that. Gomez was "all in" on the turn pumping as hard as he could and losing ground behind the dueling leaders. They blistered fractions and he caught them late. Its also his first win since Friday. Gee, thats just swell. A guy riding nothing but live horses wins one race in 4 racing days, wow, he should go straight in the hall of fame for that one!!! LOL!!! Umm, how many guys is he trailing up here?

How is it that Gomez is getting so many live horses? Bunch of stupid trainers?
And how are stupid trainers able to get horses in condition to be live?

Rupert Pupkin · #19 08-16-2006, 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by oracle80

It was indeed pure luck and you obviously didnt see teh race if you don't know that. Gomez was "all in" on the turn pumping as hard as he could and losing ground behind the dueling leaders. They blistered fractions and he caught them late. Its also his first win since Friday. Gee, thats just swell. A guy riding nothing but live horses wins one race in 4 racing days, wow, he should go straight in the hall of fame for that one!!! LOL!!! Umm, how many guys is he trailing up here?

You are so funny. Whenever Gomez gives a good ride, you say it was luck. His $12.4 million in purses, which is more than any other rider in the country ,must be luck too. When he gives a good ride, it was good racing luck but when he gets into trouble it was not bad racing luck, it was his fault. If you are going to hold him responsible for the bad trips, you have to give him credit for the good trips.

With regard to his ride in the feature today, he rode the horse perfectly. I saw the race. He wasn't "all in" and pumping as hard as he could on the turn. He was riding the horse somewhat to stay close. He may have had to get after her a little bit to keep her running into the dirt that she was taking. Anyway, he placed the horse perfectly and he made his move at the right time. Whenever he started asking the horse was obviously the right time. He won the race didn't he? Actually that doesn't always mean that the ride was good. I've seen bad rides where a horse was so much the best that they won despite getting a bad ride. But that wasn't the case here. I don't think you can critique this ride. He stayed out of trouble and he timed his move right. He rode her perfectly.

SCUDSBROTHER · #20 08-17-2006, 05:44 AM

Well,he did look "all in" on the turn to me,and appeared to lose some ground(hence.."all in.") This is what I feel the guy is best at(riding the hell out of a price horse.)It became a Batan Death March,and he was rewarded for staying after his filly the whole time.Guy is always a good play on a price horse that can come late.Now,if he can learn to keep chalk from getting trapped(and/or intimidated,) then he will be worth playing on chalk.