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Old 03-02-2009, 07:02 AM
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Default WKND BSF's: Quality Road 113; 'Mousse 103

Huge figure for Quality Road in the FOY and for Jojo too...


Fountain (GP): QUALITY ROAD 113; Theregoesjojo 105
Davona Dale (GP): JUSTWHISTLEDIXIE 97
Sham (SA): THE PAMPELMOUSSE 103; Take the Points 93
Baldwin (SA): BATTLE OF HASTINGS
Canadian Turf (GP): TWILIGHT METEOR 94

Stymie (AQU): Barrier Reef 99
Crystal Waters (SA): Medzendeekron 99
Borderland Derby (SUN): Scorewithcater/Mine That Bird 84
Battaglia (TP): Proceed Bee 73
Mountain Valley (OP): Citizen/Flying Private 85
Miracle Wood (LRL): Rock on Justin 84
King Glorious (GG): Charlie's Moment 87


MSW (GP): Affirmatif 94
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Old 03-02-2009, 07:26 AM
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Huge figure for Quality Road in the FOY and for Jojo too...
Maybe could have been a few points higher as well.

You have to have US Treasury winning the 2nd race with just a 78 to get QR at 113.
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Old 03-02-2009, 07:34 AM
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Maybe could have been a few points higher as well.

You have to have US Treasury winning the 2nd race with just a 78 to get QR at 113.
Funny you mentioned that Doug because US Treasury (One of Mrs. Weber's) caught my eye in the Winner's Book when accruing the figs and on the Stakes Review page:

QR more than 3 full seconds faster than Treasury, (est. 16L or so?), though more than 3.5 hours later on the card.

FOUNTAIN'S FRACTIONS: 23.83 - 45.55 - 1:09.40 - 1:35.01
Race 2 (MdnSplWt, 4+, 1m) 23.74 - 46.22 - 1:11.27 - 1:38.36
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Old 03-02-2009, 08:27 AM
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I'd really like to hear what people think about Take the Points' 7-point regression on the Beyer scale. I felt like he ran a strong race. And I guess he did. Just expected to see him higher than 93.

Also, there were several wire-to-wire winners at SA yesterday, including more than one at two turns. Although just about all of the winners were among the favorites.
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Old 03-02-2009, 08:34 AM
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I'd really like to hear what people think about Take the Points' 7-point regression on the Beyer scale.
A 7 point regression is nothing when you're talking about going from like a 100 in a one-turn dirt mile to a 93 in a 9f synthetic route. Especially for a 3yo.

Actually, it might have been a somewhat improved race. He got that big dirt figure while up on a soft pace with an easy trip.
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Old 03-02-2009, 11:38 AM
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A 7 point regression is nothing when you're talking about going from like a 100 in a one-turn dirt mile to a 93 in a 9f synthetic route. Especially for a 3yo.

Actually, it might have been a somewhat improved race. He got that big dirt figure while up on a soft pace with an easy trip.
Agree. The surface change is tough to account for nowadays.
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QR more than 3 full seconds faster than Treasury, (est. 16L or so?), though more than 3.5 hours later on the card.
3.35 seconds at that distance would equal about 19.5 lengths.
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3.35 seconds at that distance would equal about 19.5 lengths.
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3.35 seconds at that distance would equal about 19.5 lengths.

How long is a "length"? I usually use 10 feet, but I have never heard a definitive answer. If it is 10 feet, a horse coming home the final 1/8th in 13 seconds is covering a shade over 50 feet per second, or 5 lengths per second. If a length is indeed 10 feet then this would mean 3.35 seconds is 16 3/4 lengths.
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How long is a "length"? I usually use 10 feet, but I have never heard a definitive answer. If it is 10 feet, a horse coming home the final 1/8th in 13 seconds is covering a shade over 50 feet per second, or 5 lengths per second. If a length is indeed 10 feet then this would mean 3.35 seconds is 16 3/4 lengths.
Some use the number you are thinking and many figure guys go to 6 lengths/second as Doug, and I believe CJ and Andy do.. I started years ago with 5 lengths/second and generally use that for quick calculations because of the relative mental ease of the number(s) when using it.
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How long is a "length"? I usually use 10 feet, but I have never heard a definitive answer.
Studies show a horse length usually measures about 8.5 to 9 feet.

The old rule of thumb is that a length equals 1/5th of a second .... but to steal a line from Steve Davidowitz...."mathmatically speaking, a length should equal 1/5th of a second only when a horse travels a furlong in 15 seconds. The only horses who go that slow charge 10 cents a ride."
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