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Old 12-23-2008, 04:00 PM
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Default What did you learn this year?

Another year about to close. What is amazing about this sport of handicapping horses is you're always learning.

What handicapping angle did you learn or found useful this year?

For me it's how I apporach the PP's. Quite simply, starting at the bottom of a horses PP and working up as the first thing I do has shown to give me a real feel for what the horse will do today. It takes some time, but, it puts the horse's PP's into a perspective that I can work with. Only after doing that do I look at everything else. Because I'm usually looking for long shots, I find this way I see things I may not, even working down a horses form, instead of up.

What about you?
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Old 12-23-2008, 04:04 PM
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Concetrating on p3s and fours and avoiding going nuts on big exacta and win bets. Good Luck to all in 2009. KP
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Old 12-23-2008, 04:09 PM
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Old 12-23-2008, 04:36 PM
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I know this sounds really dumb, but I can't think of a thing I learned this year. It was an ok year, didn't win a lot, but didn't lose a lot either. The one thing I think I will try to do more is play more Pick 4's. Problem is, I don't have alot of confidence in doing so. I've played maybe 8-10 (normally play win and exata's), and haven't hit a one.
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Old 12-23-2008, 04:42 PM
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I learned that I am terrible at vertical bets. On occasion I managed to cash a couple of Exactas, but didn't cash a single Tri all year and eventually quit playing them.

Had a good year betting horizontally and learned to focus just about all of my bankroll on those pick-3 and pick-4 wagers. Can't count the number of times a pick-4 blew up on the first leg at Arlington but I managed to recoup it by seeing out the late pick-3.

Oh, and to stop wasting my money anywhere but Arlington...that'd probably help too.
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Old 12-23-2008, 04:42 PM
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Listen to more peoples selections or picks here.
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Old 12-23-2008, 05:17 PM
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Trip handicapping.

Much can be learned on this board and through personal observations about trip handicapping. If one can add the ability to understand trips, which goes so far beyond the surface, he/she can be successful and end up grabbing some nice scores.

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Old 12-23-2008, 06:01 PM
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Concetrating on p3s and fours and avoiding going nuts on big exacta and win bets. Good Luck to all in 2009. KP
Complete opposite for me. P3 and P4 were a waste of money compared to the exacta's that you can cash at Belmont,Saratoga and Aquaduct.
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Old 12-24-2008, 04:10 AM
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Another year about to close. What is amazing about this sport of handicapping horses is you're always learning.

I learned to respect luck and gut feelings.

Last New Year's Day weekend I watched some replays and picked out a double digit ML horse that I was confident was going to hit the board here in the Bay Area. Just planned to take $150 for one BS/fun play of the weekend at $50 to place and $100 to show.

I had planned to hit the OTB at opening, but my wife asked I head to my mother in law's house to set up the new electronics we gave her for Christmas. I figured I had time to go across the bay and get it done, and come back and get the bet in. Plans went awry with traffic and unexpected tech issues, and I didn't make it to any place to bet until after the race's post time.

On the drive back across the bridge I told my wife, "if that horse I was thinking of betting placed, I probably shouldn't bet the rest of the year."

Of course it placed. I forget the payouts, but it was like $14 to place and $8 to show.

The superstitious part of me knew that it was something of an omen. Then, about six weeks later I had a premonition that Ryan Newman was going to win the Daytona 500. I made a nice chunk of change with a straight bet on Kevin Harvick at about 14-1 a couple years earlier, and planned to put $100 on Newman, $100 on Junior, and $50 on Tony Stewart. A sideshow bet for a weekend of blackjack, and I knew I would probably make up any loss at the blackjack tables. We had plans to make it to Reno where I was going to bet, but work stuff came up at the last minute, and we didn't go. Ryan Newman won, at I think 35+-1 odds.

Another omen. And I knew it.

I ended up having probably the worst year of gambling of my entire gambling life. I lost at blackjack in Reno and Tahoe like five times, and I have historically NEVER lost at blackjack. I caught my longshot tri's on several occasions, but the chalk never missed the board. I didn't collect a ticket of any significance at the Breeders' Cup.

Now I did probably go somewhere between 45-55 and 55-45 on other horses the rest of the year, but way off my lifetime average.

I'm far from giving up gambling, but I should have listened to my gut last New Year's.
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I've learned how to use words like machinations and ensconced in the same sentence. It's really helped with my people skills.
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