RollerDoc's Bank

[RollerDoc]

Memo to Hank Goldberg:

Follow my advice today and you might win some money for once.

Race #8
Post 3 Lucky Island ($10 across the Board) investment $30

Race #9
Post 4 Proudinsky ($10 Win) investment $10

Race #10
Post 2 Merchant Marine ($10 across the Board) Investment $30
Post 4 Wanderin Boy ($4 across the Board) Investment $12
Post 8 Stones River ($2 across the Board) Investment $6

RollerDoc's Bank $88.00 Outcome __________

[RollerDoc]

Originally Posted by RollerDoc

RollerDoc's Bank $88.00 Outcome __________

Lost $43.70

It's still less than Hank Goldberg's ever lost

Lucky Island in Race #8 sunk me. Good comeback in the Place and Show in Race #10. Curlin was tough today, but all odds point to Big Brown at BCC as these two horses battle for HOY GREATNESS.

[RollerDoc]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

May I make a suggestion? Betting horses across the board is a recipe for disaster anyway, but betting 2-1 shots across the board is just wasting your time. Instead of betting across the board, mix it up with some exactas.

Good advice. I stopped by the OTB in time to watch race 8. Bad management on my part. I didn't even realize Lucky Island was a 2-1 favorite. I was focused more on race 10. In 9 I bet Proudinsky just because he gave Big Brown a good race at Monmouth.

It was not good betting strategy at all. Some in attendance at the OTB were heckling me for betting LI across the Board. They were calling me junior

The only thing worse than Lucky Island today was the lousy nachos I got at the OTB.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

May I make a suggestion? Betting horses across the board is a recipe for disaster anyway, but betting 2-1 shots across the board is just wasting your time. Instead of betting across the board, mix it up with some exactas.

actually, i had a lot of payoffs at arl playing horses across the board-along with some exactas.
of course, none of them were 2-1 tho.....

[RollerDoc]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Well, whatever works for you. I just go by what most of the pro's say and it's not place and show betting.

But in the case of the Place and Show horses in Curlin's race today it worked to my advantage. In a race that many said there is no money to win, the other two made it decent. If Mambo comes in second then there is nothing.

Today is the second time I learned about betting the hard way. At the Monmouth I keyed Big Brown on top of every possible trifecta. After he won, I was so excited to see my payout. I would have never dreamed that I could win a trifecta and lose money.

Oh well I learn more and more each race that interests me.

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Well, whatever works for you. I just go by what most of the pro's say and it's not place and show betting.

totally agree with the place betting, but there is nothing wrong with a solid 25 win/place bet, if you bet something in the 3-1 and up range, and get beat even by the chalk, your still likely to make your money back, plus a bit

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

You've admitted to being a terrible bettor. Just stop.

nothing wrong with place betting ! it bailed me out today on the 10 in the first at belmont

[letswastemoney]

In the long run, it's better to key the horse you like on top of an exacta with some longer priced horses underneath, rather than do a win/place bet.

[RollerDoc]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

How did it work to your advantage? You bet $48 on the race and got back $43.50? What am I missing?

My net loss was only $4.50. I guess my point was that is not a horrible result if you are willing to take a chance at betting against a huge favorite. Had I bet those same three horses to Win only as opposed to across the board, then that would have been a over 10 times the loss.

[RollerDoc]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

You seem to be confusing things and I'm not patient enough to go through it all. Do what you want.

In the end I lost money. Not good. I realize that. Trust me, I learned today I will not bet across the board going forward unless I have some FU money to throw at capable longshots from time to time.

Who is this hrfan guy?

Originally Posted by letswastemoney

In the long run, it's better to key the horse you like on top of an exacta with some longer priced horses underneath, rather than do a win/place bet.

thats also wrong, what happens when the horse you like wins at 3 or 4-1 and you dont catch anything underneath ? ? please tell me what happens

[RollerDoc]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

You seem to be confusing things and I'm not patient enough to go through it all. Do what you want.

PS...Don't you find it a little funny that I am sending Hank Goldberg memos on how to win money when I am betting across the board on 2-1 horses

Originally Posted by RollerDoc

PS...Don't you find it a little funny that I am sending Hank Goldberg memos on how to win money when I am betting across the board on 2-1 horses

make your own opinions, you made all these wps bets today, now you would just stop because someone said so ? i agree with hoss on the show, but there is nothing wrong with win/place

[dalakhani]

I am far from an expert in wagering strategy. I agree that across the board wagering consistently is a good way to lose money.

However, most races present opportunities of some kind. Labeling any type of wager as "good" or "bad" without taking it into context with a particular race(s) is narrow in my opinion. The pick 4 isnt always a good bet and a bridgejumping show wager isnt always a bad one.

[RollerDoc]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

The village idiot and a compulsive liar. I'm an azzhole. But, I'm sure you figured that out by now.

Not at all. I like you. You are one of the few who haven't beaten me up too bad over my Big Brown crusade these past few months.

[RollerDoc]

Originally Posted by hrfan

make your own opinions, you made all these wps bets today, now you would just stop because someone said so ? i agree with hoss on the show, but there is nothing wrong with win/place

Well the fact of the matter is I am up close to $1000.00 this year, and most of it was on Big Brown. Most of it was also when he won the Fla Derby and KY Derby when I got some decent odds. I still bet him in every race despite his heavily favorite odds.

Recently, I strayed from the script with this across the board stuff and have not been nearly as successful. So the advice of Hoss is very sensible to me.

Originally Posted by RollerDoc

Well the fact of the matter is I am up close to $1000.00 this year, and most of it was on Big Brown. Most of it was also when he won the Fla Derby and KY Derby when I got some decent odds. I still bet him in every race despite his heavily favorite odds.

Recently, I strayed from the script with this across the board stuff and have not been nearly as successful. So the advice of Hoss is very sensible to me.

show is a waste.....
have i not been saying that ?

example, i bet the 10 win place today in the first at belmont..... now if i bet him just to win or put him on top of other horses like other ppl say, i would have lost everything, instead, i made a few bucks on the bet.

[blackthroatedwind]

Lucky Island was the ultimate sucker litmus test.

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

I wonder how you function in everyday life sometimes. You bet to win and then bet exactas with your horse on top and/or with your horse underneath.

LOL

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Yeah, well PG just pm'd me and he thinks anyone that listens to you is crazy and you are one of the worst public handicappers alive. He won't say it to you, and i know how broken up you are going to be, but I had to get it off my chest.

Now that's something to LOL at.

I'm crushed. I don't know how I will go on.

More importantly.....who taught him how to PM?