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Old 09-25-2008, 09:27 AM
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8th (3:22) Turf Amazon H.

5 Furlongs (Turf) | Fillies and Mares | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $200,000

1 Canadian Ballet Pino M G 113 L
2 Hi Beautiful Mariano A 115 L
3 Peisinoe Mariano A 114 L
4 Smart and Fancy Pennington F 123 L
5 Star of Idabel Carmouche K 114 L
6 Weeks Hampshire J F Jr 118 L
7 Beau Dare Lopez C C 121 L
8 Classify Shepherd J 120 L
9 Ahvee's Destiny Luzzi M J 116 L
10 Sheets Alvarado R Jr 117 L
11 Casanova Killer Shepherd J 112 L



9th (3:50) Gallant Bob H.

6 Furlongs | Open | 3 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $250,000

1 M J's Enchanteur Arce J 119 L
2 Rollers Luzzi M J 114 L
3 Cobra Strike Molina V H 114 L
4 Courting Wisdom Pennington F 113 L
5 Fujita Lopez C C 116 L
6 Golden Spikes Bridgmohan J V 120 L
7 Lantana Mob Pino M G 122 L
8 Desert Key Carmouche K 119 L
9 Evenings End Mariano A 111 L
10 Devereux Shepherd J 119 L
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Old 09-25-2008, 09:34 AM
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Holy cow. Terrific edition of the Gallant Bob... As good a lineup as you could want. A bit surprised a couple here didn't opt for the Vosburgh. Anyone that chose this over the Vos certainly didn't get any class relief.


A bunch of toughies here that I've particularly liked all year...

Lantana Mob..
Devereaux..
Golden Spikes..


And hot up n' comers too...

Rollers..
Desert Key..
Fujita..


Hell.. even the local Midlantic set is intriguing..

MJ's Enchanteur..
Cobra Strike..
Courting Wisdom..
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Old 09-25-2008, 10:30 AM
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They'll double enter and pick their spot.
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Old 09-25-2008, 11:37 AM
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They'll double enter and pick their spot.
Desert Key is the only horse here that nominated to the Vosburgh..

Those that didn't Vos nominate expected Midnight Lute, Abraaj, Benny the Bull, etc. to be there, and of course that's not the way things have turned out.
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Old 09-25-2008, 12:20 PM
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Desert Key is the only horse here that nominated to the Vosburgh..

Those that didn't Vos nominate expected Midnight Lute, Abraaj, Benny the Bull, etc. to be there, and of course that's not the way things have turned out.
Two of those horses were already toast before nominations closed. I think what's at play here is a big purse (comparable to the Vosburgh) while remaining in their own age group. None of those horses is proven Grade 1, or even considered at the top of the 3yo sprint division, though they may be up-and-coming. Not to mention they are not all NY-based (the main horse, Desert Key is, was nominated, and seems spotted for action by going here). Didn't Visionaire just light up half of them?
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Old 09-25-2008, 12:46 PM
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I don't get it. What makes this field so good? It's a race of three year olds.

More specifically, three year olds of this year.
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I don't get it. What makes this field so good? It's a race of three year olds.

More specifically, three year olds of this year.
Desert Key is a very very serious horse.
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Old 09-26-2008, 08:10 AM
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I don't get it. What makes this field so good? It's a race of three year olds.

More specifically, three year olds of this year.
Was the King's Bishop a good race? Those were three year olds. Those that think little of the sophs generally are focused on the route-goers anyway. Sprinters are sprinters. This is a really well-matched group that provides for a terrific betting affair.
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Old 09-26-2008, 09:01 AM
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I would have to strongly, but respectivley, disagree that there is no class relief from the Vosburgh. I dont see any fab strikes in there.
Very nice group to ship to Philly, no doubt.
Just 1 of the 50 races I want to bet this weekend.
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Old 09-26-2008, 09:20 AM
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Cobra Strike, a horse that I've been following for a while now, seems to be up against it in here. I'm sure there were MUCH easier spots to try him in than this.
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Was the King's Bishop a good race? Those were three year olds. Those that think little of the sophs generally are focused on the route-goers anyway. Sprinters are sprinters. This is a really well-matched group that provides for a terrific betting affair.

It was a good race in that it was entertaining. How " good " a group it is remains to be seen. Desert Key may be OK. Kodiak Kowboy may get a great trip tomorrow in NY. However, as a group, they have a long way to go before they are considered more than an ordinary group of supposed top class performers.
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Old 09-26-2008, 09:28 AM
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Holy cow. Terrific edition of the Gallant Bob... As good a lineup as you could want. A bit surprised a couple here didn't opt for the Vosburgh. Anyone that chose this over the Vos certainly didn't get any class relief.

A bunch of toughies here that I've particularly liked all year...

Lantana Mob..
Devereaux..
Golden Spikes..


And hot up n' comers too...

Rollers..
Desert Key..
Fujita..


Hell.. even the local Midlantic set is intriguing..

MJ's Enchanteur..
Cobra Strike..
Courting Wisdom..
After 400 re-reads, I still can't believe I read that. You honestly believe that on a class level, this is equal to the Vosburgh?
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Old 09-26-2008, 03:43 PM
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It was a good race in that it was entertaining. How " good " a group it is remains to be seen. Desert Key may be OK. Kodiak Kowboy may get a great trip tomorrow in NY. However, as a group, they have a long way to go before they are considered more than an ordinary group of supposed top class performers.
the kings bishop was a very good group, desert key and the ward horse will both be good
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It was a good race in that it was entertaining. How " good " a group it is remains to be seen. Desert Key may be OK. Kodiak Kowboy may get a great trip tomorrow in NY. However, as a group, they have a long way to go before they are considered more than an ordinary group of supposed top class performers.
the kings bishop was a very good group, desert key and the ward horse will both be good
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After 400 re-reads, I still can't believe I read that. You honestly believe that on a class level, this is equal to the Vosburgh?
i dont get it, i think desert key is as good as anything in the Vosburgh
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Old 09-26-2008, 03:47 PM
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After 400 re-reads, I still can't believe I read that. You honestly believe that on a class level, this is equal to the Vosburgh?
Uh, no. And that wasn't the suggestion.
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i dont get it, i think desert key is as good as anything in the Vosburgh
What price do you think Kodiak Kowboy and J Be K will be in there?

Desert Key's tenacious enough in a speed duel to save a placing against his fellow 3yos. What do you think will happen against older, world-class frontrunning speed?

It might not be too pretty. Wait til next year.
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Old 09-26-2008, 07:12 PM
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Desert Key boxed with Rollers, possibly some good value there
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Desert Key boxed with Rollers, possibly some good value there

Got it the right way with Rollers first, $2 exacta pays $46
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