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Old 08-13-2008, 09:35 AM
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Default Handicapping Contests: Which one and how to enter?

Do any of you guys know about the official contests in Vegas, and how one would get involved?

I have heard of the the National Handicapping Championship associated with DRF, and I have also heard of the the "World Series of Handicapping". I'd like to (eventually) try to enter one, and I don't know how to actually get started.

One key question: Do these contests allow the individual to take a laptop computer with him, and do they have internet connectivity? I have tried to automate some of the calculations I do and I do not see me trying to "pen and paper" my way through such an undertaking.

Any info much appreciated...

Joe
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Old 08-13-2008, 09:41 AM
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to get into the NTRA/DRF one, you need to qualify to get there. you cannot just buy-into it. Normally, you have to place in the top 3 in another contest or series of contests.

HPWS at Orleans, I think you can buy-in for $1000 if you don't qualify for it thru another contest.

don't know about the laptops out there (I'd assume you can have one with you, in your hotel room, but not in the sportsbook nor any other part of the casino).

I've been trying for the last few years to qualify through the free online qualifiers. Made it to the finals of them a few times and been close, but haven't been top 3 in the final yet. Brisnet runs a couple qualifiers for them online where you have to be top 50 in one of their first round qualifiers to get to the final. Sept 20th is the next one.
http://www.brisnet.com/cgi-bin/challenge.cgi
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Old 08-13-2008, 07:13 PM
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First, play in contests thats suit your type of play. I personaly hate the $2 WPS only contests. I like the Lone Star Tournaments cause it covers Tri's, Supers, WPS and EX Box

I came second at the Lone Star Handicaping Qualifiers on April 5th and I will be there on Oct 18th for the Lone Star NTRA Qualifying finals. I hope I can make it in the top 3 so I can go to vegas in JAN
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Old 08-13-2008, 09:38 PM
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Do any of you guys know about the official contests in Vegas, and how one would get involved?

I have heard of the the National Handicapping Championship associated with DRF, and I have also heard of the the "World Series of Handicapping". I'd like to (eventually) try to enter one, and I don't know how to actually get started.

One key question: Do these contests allow the individual to take a laptop computer with him, and do they have internet connectivity? I have tried to automate some of the calculations I do and I do not see me trying to "pen and paper" my way through such an undertaking.

Any info much appreciated...

Joe
The Horseplayers world series (and any of the Coast Casino contests) allow computers in the contest room. They don't allow cell phones or text messaging however.
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Old 08-14-2008, 08:48 AM
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Well, where computers are allowed, do they also provide "wi-fi" connectivity, or do I need to download everything I need before I go into the contest area?

I, like most people, would use the computer for making complex calculations faster, but if it doesn't have the info on the hard drive already, I'd need to download stuff or it would be useless.

By the way, is that DRF book on Handicapping Contests any good?
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Old 08-14-2008, 11:27 AM
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Well, where computers are allowed, do they also provide "wi-fi" connectivity, or do I need to download everything I need before I go into the contest area?

I, like most people, would use the computer for making complex calculations faster, but if it doesn't have the info on the hard drive already, I'd need to download stuff or it would be useless.

By the way, is that DRF book on Handicapping Contests any good?
You might want to qualify first.

These are usually $2WP contests and your computer is not exactly going to help you.
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Old 08-14-2008, 12:53 PM
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Point taken. Thanks. I guess I'll have to see what it's like -- qualifying is hard enough.
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Old 08-14-2008, 05:24 PM
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if you want a daily one to try.... (won't get you to Vegas, but something free to try)

www.youbet.net

the winner each day gets $100 (or it's split if people tie... found that one the hard way)
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Old 08-14-2008, 05:56 PM
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Well, where computers are allowed, do they also provide "wi-fi" connectivity, or do I need to download everything I need before I go into the contest area?

I, like most people, would use the computer for making complex calculations faster, but if it doesn't have the info on the hard drive already, I'd need to download stuff or it would be useless.

By the way, is that DRF book on Handicapping Contests any good?
I am 99% positive they have WIFI connectivity. I am not positive since I don't use any handicapping software myself. There are a LOT of computer users all over the room during the contests.
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Old 08-14-2008, 06:10 PM
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Joeydb, One of the things that the book did say was pretty much to try to pick your spots wisely. Meaning to try to maybe find a more obscure tourney that might be less than capacity (The prize money will be a bit short) so you will have better odds to hit the board or even win. I see the Eagles logo so I am guessing that you live in the Pa/NJ area (or just a glutton for punishment). Try looking into the tourneys that they run at the Meadowlands and at Monmouth Park. There always seems to be openings in them. I went into the last one at the Meadowlands and had a chance to hit the board going into my last bet. But they definatly did not sell out. I also believe that the ones on the NYRA circuit are more expensive to enter and always seem to sell out. So if you can find a softer spot to enter that would be my suggestion.
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Old 08-14-2008, 09:40 PM
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Yes on both counts: In the Philly area and yes, the Eagles have given me my share of black and blue marks.

I was looking for anything at Philadelphia Park and can't seem to find anything. Of course THEY like to advertise "Philadelphia Park Casino" on TV here, and they don't mention horse racing AT ALL! Talk about sticking it to the horseplayer...it's like they are EMBARASSED that they have racing!

It would be ironic that I need to go to NJ to get into a tournament, since they don't allow online betting at all (PA does), and the track I used to frequent most in NJ, Garden State, is a distant memory.

Thanks everybody for all the suggestions. I'm so glad I found this board!
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Old 08-14-2008, 10:03 PM
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Yes on both counts: In the Philly area and yes, the Eagles have given me my share of black and blue marks.

I was looking for anything at Philadelphia Park and can't seem to find anything. Of course THEY like to advertise "Philadelphia Park Casino" on TV here, and they don't mention horse racing AT ALL! Talk about sticking it to the horseplayer...it's like they are EMBARASSED that they have racing!

It would be ironic that I need to go to NJ to get into a tournament, since they don't allow online betting at all (PA does), and the track I used to frequent most in NJ, Garden State, is a distant memory.

Thanks everybody for all the suggestions. I'm so glad I found this board!
Jersey does have an online betting platform. www.4njbets.com. I wouldn't know how it compares to other platforms, but it certainly serves the purpose for me.
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Old 08-14-2008, 10:54 PM
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if you're serious you should prolly try to get familiar just playing in vegas to get familiar with travel arrangements, set-ups etc. so you dont have to think about all the extraneous once you're there for the big dance - at the Orleans there's a Labor Day qualifier (9/1 SAR closing day) $100 entry fee, limit 2 entries, win/place format, no partners, top 5 win a qualifying spot in the 2009 Horseplayers World Series, they're offering rooms at $45 and there are cheap flights out there - then there's the Fall Classic on October 9th-11th, entry fee is $500, top 50 finishers will qualify - phone number is 1-888-566-7223, can ask them to email you a brochure.. oh, they also feed you, very well in fact lol.. GOOD LUCK !

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Do any of you guys know about the official contests in Vegas, and how one would get involved?

I have heard of the the National Handicapping Championship associated with DRF, and I have also heard of the the "World Series of Handicapping". I'd like to (eventually) try to enter one, and I don't know how to actually get started.

One key question: Do these contests allow the individual to take a laptop computer with him, and do they have internet connectivity? I have tried to automate some of the calculations I do and I do not see me trying to "pen and paper" my way through such an undertaking.

Any info much appreciated...

Joe
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