Any Info ?

[jcs11204]

6 5 Street Hero Espinoza V Cho Myung Kwon 120 12-1 ?

runs tomorrow in the last race at hollywood, nice pedigree and amazing workouts.... i have never herd of the trainer, does anyone know anything about the horse, trainer ?

[KirisClown]

He owned and trained the immortal Nationalore....

[CSC]

Hard to believe that horse finished 3rd in the BC Juvenile, he also trained a horse I forget that I believe just finished out of the money in the derby.

[RolloTomasi]

Myung Kwon Cho also trained and owned Video Ranger, 2nd in the Santa Anita Derby to Mister Friskey. Later he either won or was just edged by fledging owner Frank Stronach's Yonder (a former Claiborne horse) in the Jersey Derby, before getting crushed in the Belmont.

A couple of years ago he ran the good allowance horse Double Galore (who may be a half brother to Street Hero) in the Belmont and got beat a pole.

[jcs11204]

i have never herd of any of these horses.

[Indian Charlie]

He also trained a total monster 10-15 years ago. A cal bred, I think he was a son of that Cox's Ridge stallion he seemed connected to.

That horse looked like he was going to be any kind, but died suddenly as a 2yo.

I wish I could remember his name.

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by jcs11204

i have never herd of any of these horses.

Sorry. My bad.

You should have entitled this thread "Any Info I Already Know?"

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

He also trained a total monster 10-15 years ago. A cal bred, I think he was a son of that Cox's Ridge stallion he seemed connected to.

That horse looked like he was going to be any kind, but died suddenly as a 2yo.

I wish I could remember his name.

The Cox's Ridge stallion was Video Ranger (he was a 3yo of 1990). Video Ranger sired Nationalore, multiple graded stakes placed but never a winner, who broke down as an older horse. Not sure if there is another horse you are considering.

[jcs11204]

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

Sorry. My bad.

You should have entitled this thread "Any Info I Already Know?"

lol its ok, i was only 5 in 1990, i did not start following the game till at least 1993

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

Myung Kwon Cho also trained and owned Video Ranger, 2nd in the Santa Anita Derby to Mister Friskey. Later he either won or was just edged by fledging owner Frank Stronach's Yonder (a former Claiborne horse) in the Jersey Derby, before getting crushed in the Belmont.

Video Ranger ran 4th in the Kentucky Derby behind Unbridled, Summer Squall, and Pleasant Tap. It was Ron Hansen's only Derby mount ever.

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by jcs11204

lol its ok, i was only 5 in 1990, i did not start following the game till at least 1993

Well, then at least the name "Street Hero" should remind you of the greatest Rokeby horse of all-time (aside from Red Ransom), Sea Hero, who took the '93 Kentucky Derby and Travers.

[jcs11204]

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

Well, then at least the name "Street Hero" should remind you of the greatest Rokeby horse of all-time (aside from Red Ransom), Sea Hero, who took the '93 Kentucky Derby and Travers.

i remember sea hero, did bailey ride him ?

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by jcs11204

i remember sea hero, did bailey ride him ?

Yep. Sea Hero now stands at stud in Turkey. Bailey acts like a Turkey on TV.

[jcs11204]

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

Yep. Sea Hero now stands at stud in Turkey. Bailey acts like a Turkey on TV.

i love bailey... i have a autographed copy of his book, Against the odds

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by jcs11204

i love bailey... i have a autographed copy of his book.

I'd rather read 300 pages of Beatle Bailey comic strips.

By the way, did he charge you for the autograph?

[jcs11204]

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

I'd rather read 300 pages of Beatle Bailey comic strips.

By the way, did he charge you for the autograph?

no, do you watch the show Down the Stretch, on saturday mornings ? well a few years back they were doing a trivia thing, asking question, first caller to answer, would win his book, and a chance to meet him at the albany teletheater and for him to auto. it.... the question was who won some race in ny the year before, the answer was Peace Rules with Bailey riding, i called it in first, and won it.

[KirisClown]

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

Well, then at least the name "Street Hero" should remind you of the greatest Rokeby horse of all-time (aside from Red Ransom), Sea Hero, who took the '93 Kentucky Derby and Travers.

What future Grade 1 winner was Sea Hero coupled with in his final career start? (the 1994 Fayette at Keeneland)

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by KirisClown

What future Grade 1 winner was Sea Hero coupled with in his final career start? (the 1994 Fayette at Keeneland)

Key Contender. The fact that Sea Hero failed to finish in front of his less fancied stablemate (he won his Grade 1 for someone else after being sold by Rokeby) prompted Mack Miller to retire him immediately.

Personally, though I don't think he would have been some top older horse, I think Sea Hero's 4yo campaign was hindered by all the turf starts, when the year before, Miller had been so patient with allowing him to "round to form" for his biggest engagements as a 3yo in spite of less-than-stellar efforts in prep races like the Palm Beach and Jim Dandy. After getting lit up by Devil His Due in the Brooklyn early as a 4yo, it was as if had no hope of winning on dirt again, unfortunately he couldn't get it done on turf either.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

The Cox's Ridge stallion was Video Ranger (he was a 3yo of 1990). Video Ranger sired Nationalore, multiple graded stakes placed but never a winner, who broke down as an older horse. Not sure if there is another horse you are considering.

Yeah, I remember Video Ranger. I'm pretty sure this horse was a son of his, especially since this trainer seemed to train almost exclusively Video Ranger offspring. He won one of the stakes at Del Mar and then died.

[KirisClown]

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

Key Contender. The fact that Sea Hero failed to finish in front of his less fancied stablemate (he won his Grade 1 for someone else after being sold by Rokeby) prompted Mack Miller to retire him immediately.

Personally, though I don't think he would have been some top older horse, I think Sea Hero's 4yo campaign was hindered by all the turf starts, when the year before, Miller had been so patient with allowing him to "round to form" for his biggest engagements as a 3yo in spite of less-than-stellar efforts in prep races like the Palm Beach and Jim Dandy. After getting lit up by Devil His Due in the Brooklyn early as a 4yo, it was as if had no hope of winning on dirt again, unfortunately he couldn't get it done on turf either.

Yup, very good, it was Key Contender, he won the Suburban in 1995.. for Flying Zee Stable and Jose Martin.

Sea Hero was always a very tough one to figure out... the only race he was good enough to win after the Travers was an off the turf sprint..