your opinions on todd schrupp !!!!!!!

[pdrift1]

since we are talking about matt and frank. what is your feelings about todd. i believe this man from meeting him first hand, is all class on tvg.his handicapping may be suspect but not horrible. this man is intelligent and holds together this network and makes it entertaing as much if not more then anyone on there staff. you can say its all about face time for him but thats not true, if you want to believe it or notthis man along with ken, makes this network flow and entertaining. these guys make me laugh my ass off and i get my 1/2 hour sitcom comedy combined with the other good cappers on the show i dont need to put on nbc for a laugh.hrtv announcers just put me to sleep. todd is what that station and horse racing needs to attract new fans. i really believe he has alot of input with tony to make that network the place to be to enjoy horse racing. this guy cares as much about the welfare of the horse and history as much as the capping aspect and is a huge ASSET,there has to be a reason why most like tvg over hrtv besides thier access to better tracks overall and i dont think todd gets enuff credit, so kudos to todd for making tvg what it is, alongwith everyone else on that great staff, this guy is to horse racing what matt vashgershin (padres tv announcer ex brewers) is to baseball broadcasting, goofy crazy funny sincere and a delight to watch. your honest take on him BESIDES HIS HANDICAPPING? would tvg lose a little flair without him , i think so

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by pdrift1

since we are talking about matt and frank. what is your feelings about todd. i believe this man from meeting him first hand, is all class on tvg.his handicapping may be suspect but not horrible. this man is intelligent and holds together this network and makes it entertaing as much if not more then anyone on there staff. you can say its all about face time for him but thats not true, if you want to believe it or notthis man along with ken, makes this network flow and entertaining. these guys make me laugh my ass off and i get my 1/2 hour sitcom comedy combined with the other good cappers on the show i dont need to put on nbc for a laugh.hrtv announcers just put me to sleep. todd is what that station and horse racing needs to attract new fans. i really believe he has alot of input with tony to make that network the place to be to enjoy horse racing. this guy cares as much about the welfare of the horse and history as much as the capping aspect and is a huge ASSET,there has to be a reason why most like tvg over hrtv besides thier access to better tracks overall and i dont think todd gets enuff credit, so kudos to todd for making tvg what it is, alongwith everyone else on that great staff, this guy is to horse racing what matt vashgershin (padres tv announcer ex brewers) is to baseball broadcasting, goofy crazy funny sincere and a delight to watch. your honest take on him BESIDES HIS HANDICAPPING? would tvg lose a little flair without him , i think so

I pretty much agree,but I also think he could easily be a type that thinks he is a franchise player(I don't believe he is.)He is a very good ringleader.He is the M.C.

[Scurlogue Champ]

I think he is close to unbearable...

and that is my honest opinion.

He seems like the guy that no one else wants around.

I really can't take the constant threads about TVG and its "personalities". I do not have TVG because the people are insufferable, out local OTB shows the races on its own televison channel.
I just can't believe how many people here care so much about these folks, I really can't. If the "ex trainers" could train, they would still be doing it. If the other geniuses actually knew anything they would be playing in the game, not talking to people who do.
YOu guys really need to start paying more attention to the horses and handicapping, and less to the TVG people, who cares about them?

[Rupert Pupkin]

I think that he does a good job overall. He can be a little annoying at times, but overall I think he does a pretty good job. His handicapping is just average as you said.
For the most part, I think all the guys on TVG do a pretty good job.

[Scurlogue Champ]

My favorite moment on TVG is in the mornings when they show UK Racing for a little while with no announcer or studio. Just the full field and then video.

Good stuff

Originally Posted by oracle80

I really can't take the constant threads about TVG and its "personalities". I do not have TVG because the people are insufferable, out local OTB shows the races on its own televison channel.
I just can't believe how many people here care so much about these folks, I really can't. If the "ex trainers" could train, they would still be doing it. If the other geniuses actually knew anything they would be playing in the game, not talking to people who do.
YOu guys really need to start paying more attention to the horses and handicapping, and less to the TVG people, who cares about them?

The dont train because they like the free time being an annoucer gives them. I heard Canini talking to Simon one day and he told Simon that he looks like he has gained a little weight and looks much better ever since handing in his license. All of the guys play the horses on their own as well as give out analysis on the tv. TVG has allowed guys like The Sarge to have some income while he is trying to get his stable off of the ground. Now, I would love to have their job and I think you would as well. Get paid $100k a year to talk horses--lol.

Todd is good. He can be the host or the talent. He is a good man and has a passion for the sport. He seems to be the whipping boy, but I think he handles it very well.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by oracle80

I really can't take the constant threads about TVG and its "personalities". I do not have TVG because the people are insufferable, out local OTB shows the races on its own televison channel.
I just can't believe how many people here care so much about these folks, I really can't. If the "ex trainers" could train, they would still be doing it. If the other geniuses actually knew anything they would be playing in the game, not talking to people who do.
YOu guys really need to start paying more attention to the horses and handicapping, and less to the TVG people, who cares about them?

Mike,I actually would prefer they just show the races without anybody gabbing(like they do at night etc.)Since they aren't gunna do that,some people are easier to put up with than the others.The HRTV Network,for instance,is a lot tougher to watch.

[Bogey]

According to some people I know at Calder, Todd S is a back stabbing weasel. They were glad when he left. He's the type of person that if you have a Pick 4 or Pick 6 alive, he'll actually pull against you in the last leg. Definitely not the kind of person that I would watch on TV. He's got so much hatred towards Gulfstream because they would never hire him whilie he was in South Florida and now his employer is not allowed to carry the races from Gulfstream. He doesn't drink alcohol and will rat anybody out that does if you know what I mean.

TVG is simply awful during the winter without Gulfstream or Santa Anita.

[PSH]

TVG is best seen on mute
Just like CNBC for stocks

The talking heads are ...
Well on mute

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by PSH

TVG is best seen on mute
Just like CNBC for stocks

The talking heads are ...
Well on mute

Exactly, CNBC is the worst. The people know nothing and simply spout the same **** every day. Just torture to listen to.

[pdrift1]

Originally Posted by oracle80

I really can't take the constant threads about TVG and its "personalities". I do not have TVG because the people are insufferable, out local OTB shows the races on its own televison channel.
I just can't believe how many people here care so much about these folks, I really can't. If the "ex trainers" could train, they would still be doing it. If the other geniuses actually knew anything they would be playing in the game, not talking to people who do.
YOu guys really need to start paying more attention to the horses and handicapping, and less to the TVG people, who cares about them?

i respect your opinion oracle tho i couldnt disagree with you more. insufferable -i would hate to se what is really bad for you, these are the folks that bring alot of us our way to watch horse racing on a constant basis , you have a otb , alot of states incuding mine have none so no such luck for me to easily get to a otb as you do.we care about them or at least i do because after you have been with them bring you your sport you tend to feel likes they are a part of your life ,in person or on tv. i love bob uecker , when i hear him do the baseball games for years and to this day its like hearing a old friend if you will same with todd and the group at tvg, they grow on you,i don't think people are letting these on air talents getting in the way of our handicapping. just as going to a beautiful track doesnt. it is what it is handicapping mixed with entertainment,you are more of a hardcore capper then others, understandable but alot arn't and enjoy thier programming is part of the enjoyment. plus i luved broadcasters from a little boy from the ones i was to young for but can still hear do to old tapes like mel allen, red barber, to bob ueker harry carry etc. todd shrupp to me is that extension in the sport of horse racing butt like i said i love broadcasting and talk radio so........they don't influence my betting i listen and take what i will from thier knowledge, thnx for responding

[pdrift1]

and as far as hrtv laffit p is the only one i can handle listening to even tho his capping is horrible also he is the only one to add energy to that lineup. i respect j white and siegel on there knowledge of the history of the game , but i'll take todd scrupp over jon white having to listen to any day of the week.and the at least the guys on tvg right or wrong on thier capping of thier picks at least take a stand and make a pick unlike siegel and white who never take stands on alot of thiers and just say this horse has a chance and this horse and they like 3 or 4 different horses and never take a stand. its like cmon right or wrong dont be afraid to put you ass on the line with your capping skills to save your credibility(which isnt much if you are not willing to take a stand. at least tvg guys put it out thier and are willing to get blasted

[pdrift1]

Originally Posted by Bogey

According to some people I know at Calder, Todd S is a back stabbing weasel. They were glad when he left. He's the type of person that if you have a Pick 4 or Pick 6 alive, he'll actually pull against you in the last leg. Definitely not the kind of person that I would watch on TV. He's got so much hatred towards Gulfstream because they would never hire him whilie he was in South Florida and now his employer is not allowed to carry the races from Gulfstream. He doesn't drink alcohol and will rat anybody out that does if you know what I mean.

TVG is simply awful during the winter without Gulfstream or Santa Anita.

yes but tvg has besides those 2 tracks so much better to offer the rest of the year as a whole

[pdrift1]

Originally Posted by eurobounce

The dont train because they like the free time being an annoucer gives them. I heard Canini talking to Simon one day and he told Simon that he looks like he has gained a little weight and looks much better ever since handing in his license. All of the guys play the horses on their own as well as give out analysis on the tv. TVG has allowed guys like The Sarge to have some income while he is trying to get his stable off of the ground. Now, I would love to have their job and I think you would as well. Get paid $100k a year to talk horses--lol.

Todd is good. He can be the host or the talent. He is a good man and has a passion for the sport. He seems to be the whipping boy, but I think he handles it very well.

your right from his actions ive seen in front of me when i met him a couple of times coming all the way down during the derby just to give a little girl in the middle of the paddock crowd around the outside ofthe paddock a tvg beret and talking to her parents and her and seeing his being very upset on los al after barbaros breakdown with tears in is eyes and after watching it with his daughters speaks volumes to me, and yes he does seem to be the whipping boy eurobounce and thats why i started the thread, i think he deserves better , but to each his own

[Scurlogue Champ]

Originally Posted by pdrift1

your right from his actions ive seen in front of me when i met him a couple of times coming all the way down during the derby just to give a little girl in the middle of the paddock crowd around the outside ofthe paddock a tvg beret and talking to her parents and her and seeing his being very upset on los al after barbaros breakdown with tears in is eyes and after watching it with his daughters speaks volumes to me, and yes he does seem to be the whipping boy eurobounce and thats why i started the thread, i think he deserves better , but to each his own

I think he might come off as the "whipping boy" because he is a full-fledged dork.

Not his fault, it is just how things are. Sometimes I can almost hear the disgust in Frank Lyons voice when dealing with the other announcers.

[Byebyemermaid]

I got rid of my Fox sports package from direct tv just so i wouldn't have to listen to Ken Rudolph and Tod.The only one i liked was Gary Seibel because he didn't tout or try to be cute.I watch the races on my computer therefore i'm no longer annoyed.TVG would keep on talking instead of showing you a race that was about to go off and then those morons would show you the result and then decide to go to it on tape delay.There was a station tears ago called trackpower that had very little commentary but would just show you the races.I'm quite astute at losing my own money i don't need any help.

[pdrift1]

Originally Posted by Byebyemermaid

I got rid of my Fox sports package from direct tv just so i wouldn't have to listen to Ken Rudolph and Tod.The only one i liked was Gary Seibel because he didn't tout or try to be cute.I watch the races on my computer therefore i'm no longer annoyed.TVG would keep on talking instead of showing you a race that was about to go off and then those morons would show you the result and then decide to go to it on tape delay.There was a station tears ago called trackpower that had very little commentary but would just show you the races.I'm quite astute at losing my own money i don't need any help.

i agree showing me the stretch run bothers me also mermaid, and the thread was about todd excluding his capping abilities

[pdrift1]

Originally Posted by Byebyemermaid

I got rid of my Fox sports package from direct tv just so i wouldn't have to listen to Ken Rudolph and Tod.The only one i liked was Gary Seibel because he didn't tout or try to be cute.I watch the races on my computer therefore i'm no longer annoyed.TVG would keep on talking instead of showing you a race that was about to go off and then those morons would show you the result and then decide to go to it on tape delay.There was a station tears ago called trackpower that had very little commentary but would just show you the races.I'm quite astute at losing my own money i don't need any help.

and having no commentary does what to help newbies get into the sport-nothing at all. maybe you dont care for it thats understandable but sometimes certain things and the way they are done are for the better of the game. alot of people wouldnt want to listen to dead air or music either esp if your first learning the game or like me can make my own picks but still get entertainment value out of it. listening to the races on the computer would just plain drive me nuts, but i can see if you dont enjoy thier humor and sarcastic wit you did the right thing by dropping them

[pdrift1]

Originally Posted by moodwalker

I think he might come off as the "whipping boy" because he is a full-fledged dork.

Not his fault, it is just how things are. Sometimes I can almost hear the disgust in Frank Lyons voice when dealing with the other announcers.

mood he plays that dorkiness up quite a bit ,dont think he is always like that lol ,hes not and frank couldnt hold that show together at all, hes tried to fill by himself and stutters , mumbles and hope like hell someone gets back to him, nothing bad on frank i enjoy him also but if you think hes looking over at todd with disgust im sure the same can be made of him also in many situations