I would like to be the first to suggest....

justindew · #1 05-31-2008, 05:45 PM

..that we might see Zenyatta in the Breeders' Cup Classic.

(unless somene else has already suggested this)

10 pnt move up · #2 05-31-2008, 05:49 PM

Well I thought of all her races she did not like the Santa Anita track at all, in fact dirt seems to be her best surface based on visuals. She should boycott santa anita like Curlin.

Rupert Pupkin · #3 05-31-2008, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by justindew

..that we might see Zenyatta in the Breeders' Cup Classic.

(unless somene else has already suggested this)

I'd be kind of surprised. Shireffs is pretty conservative. I think they will run in the Distaff.

eajinabi · #4 05-31-2008, 07:48 PM

She is by far the best filly since Nashobas Key

justindew · #5 05-31-2008, 07:51 PM

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She is by far the best filly since Nashobas Key

Too soon.

jcs11204 · #6 05-31-2008, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by justindew

Too soon.

rip to Nashobas Key, she was a very nice filly.
but i think zenyatta is already better

hockey2315 · #7 05-31-2008, 08:08 PM

Zenyatta was always better.

Rupert Pupkin · #8 05-31-2008, 08:10 PM

The more I think about, it is pretty doubtful that they would run her in the Classic because they will be running Tiago in the Classic. I would doubt that they would want to run their horses against each other when they can run one in the Classic and the other in the Distaff.

RolloTomasi · #9 05-31-2008, 08:34 PM

Not that I think she can't handle it, but Zenyatta has never raced beyond 8.5f.

jcs11204 · #10 05-31-2008, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

The more I think about, it is pretty doubtful that they would run her in the Classic because they will be running Tiago in the Classic. I would doubt that they would want to run their horses against each other when they can run one in the Classic and the other in the Distaff.

i have always been a big tiago fan, BUT....is it realistic that he will do anything in the classic ? when i say a big tiago fan, i mean big, i bet him in the santa anita derby as a maiden, i bet him in the derby and in the belmont, always liked him, but he is a dirt horse, not a synthetic horse

RolloTomasi · #11 05-31-2008, 08:47 PM

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i have always been a big tiago fan, BUT....is it realistic that he will do anything in the classic ? when i say a big tiago fan, i mean big, i bet him in the santa anita derby as a maiden, i bet him in the derby and in the belmont, always liked him, but he is a dirt horse, not a synthetic horse

A big fan? He wasn't a maiden in the Santa Anita Derby.

Also, his synthetic record is not much different than his conventional dirt record (6-2-2-1 versus 8-3-0-2). One could argue that his losses on synthetics were due to poor race dynamics when you consider the ridiculous manner in which the San Fernando and Strub were run. Even today's race didn't set up well with a lack of pace. His loss in the Big Cap, much like the Derby, Belmont, and BC Classic seemed to be the product of a horse who's stretch punch is ineffective at classic distances (hence the Met Mile suggestion by several board members).

jcs11204 · #12 05-31-2008, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

A big fan? He wasn't a maiden in the Santa Anita Derby.

Also, his synthetic record is not much different than his conventional dirt record (6-2-2-1 versus 8-3-0-2). One could argue that his losses on synthetics were due to poor race dynamics when you consider the ridiculous manner in which the San Fernando and Strub were run. Even today's race didn't set up well with a lack of pace. His loss in the Big Cap, much like the Derby, Belmont, and BC Classic seemed to be the product of a horse who's stretch punch is ineffective at classic distances (hence the Met Mile suggestion by several board members).

i think he was... and if not he was put up on dq, im going to check now . he was running against that ny bred time squared, i think

Ronnie · #13 05-31-2008, 08:53 PM

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i bet him in the santa anita derby as a maiden, i bet him in the derby and in the belmont

didn't we all?

justindew · #14 05-31-2008, 08:53 PM

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A big fan? He wasn't a maiden in the Santa Anita Derby.

But wasn't his win by DQ? I think that's what he meant.

RolloTomasi · #15 05-31-2008, 09:03 PM

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But wasn't his win by DQ? I think that's what he meant.

It was meant to be a harmless dig at a self-professed "big, big" Tiago fan. The important part of the post was the stuff underneath.

jcs11204 · #16 05-31-2008, 09:05 PM

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didn't we all?

whatever, i did, and i might be wrong but i think i gave it out on this site.

horseofcourse · #17 05-31-2008, 09:10 PM

I agree with justindew...she's more than good enough to run against the boys. She was much better than the other Shireffs horse today.

jcs11204 · #18 05-31-2008, 09:14 PM

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I agree with justindew...she's more than good enough to run against the boys. She was much better than the other Shireffs horse today.

i agree with that, especially with this group of boys....if the classic was run today or in a week or a month.... and curlin is not there, and big brown is not there... which is very very possible, ZENYATTA IS THE FAVORITE !!!!!

philcski · #19 05-31-2008, 11:16 PM

If Big Brown and Curlin aren't in the Classic, Heatseeker is the favorite... end of story.

Zenyatta is a SUPER nice filly, obviously the best out there right now. Almost Azeri-esque. Overcame a LOT today and still won for fun. But I'm not sure she's ready for the Classic... yet.

justindew · #20 06-01-2008, 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by philcski

If Big Brown and Curlin aren't in the Classic, Heatseeker is the favorite... end of story.

Zenyatta is a SUPER nice filly, obviously the best out there right now. Almost Azeri-esque. Overcame a LOT today and still won for fun. But I'm not sure she's ready for the Classic... yet.

Azeri may have won the 2002 Classic.