$6K late nominees to the Triple Crown

[Dunbar]

Sorry if this has already been discussed...I couldn't find a thread on it.

There were 10 owners who paid the $6000 to get their horses nominated to the Triple Crown. The rational for some of these is a mystery to me:

from "Bloodstock Journal"

Godolphin Racing's BARRIER REEF (Mizzen Mast), trained by Saeed bin Suroor, who was last seen capturing the February 2 Whirlaway S. at Aqueduct;

John T.L. Jones' BIG GLEN (Cactus Ridge), a Frank Brothers trainee who most recently landed the March 22 Rushaway S. at Turfway Park;

Fox Hill Farm's filly EIGHT BELLES (Unbridled's Song), who won the March 16 Honeybee S. (G3) at Oaklawn Park for horseman Larry Jones;


Bernard and Bea Oxenberg's HEY BYRN (Put It Back), conditioned by Eddie Plesa Jr. and fourth in Saturday's Florida Derby (G1) at Gulfstream Park;

Russata Stable's JAZZ IN THE PARK (Ecton Park), who is coming off a sharp Fair Grounds allowance score on March 14 for horseman Bobby Barnett;

Super Horse Inc.'s KINSALE KING (Yankee Victor), a Jesse Mendoza pupil who broke his maiden at Santa Anita on March 16;

B. Wayne Hughes' MY PAL CHARLIE (Indian Charlie), trained by Albert Stall Jr. and a solid runner-up in the March 8 Louisiana Derby (G2) at Fair Grounds;

Brereton Jones' filly PROUD SPELL (Proud Citizen), a stablemate of Eight Belles from the Larry Jones barn, who is exiting a victory in the March 8 Fair Grounds Oaks (G2);

Charlotte Wrather's ROSSO CORSA (Ferrari [Ger]), who landed a March 7 maiden at Santa Anita for conditioner Darrell Vienna;

and Peachtree Stable's SPURRIER (Dixieland Band), a Todd Pletcher pupil who is coming off an allowance/optional claiming victory at Aqueduct on March 5.


Did Hey Byrn run a good enough race to shell out $6K? And how about the two maiden winners?

--Dunbar

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by Dunbar

Sorry if this has already been discussed...I couldn't find a thread on it.

There were 10 owners who paid the $6000 to get their horses nominated to the Triple Crown. The rational for some of these is a mystery to me:

from "Bloodstock Journal"

Godolphin Racing's BARRIER REEF (Mizzen Mast), trained by Saeed bin Suroor, who was last seen capturing the February 2 Whirlaway S. at Aqueduct;

John T.L. Jones' BIG GLEN (Cactus Ridge), a Frank Brothers trainee who most recently landed the March 22 Rushaway S. at Turfway Park;

Fox Hill Farm's filly EIGHT BELLES (Unbridled's Song), who won the March 16 Honeybee S. (G3) at Oaklawn Park for horseman Larry Jones;


Bernard and Bea Oxenberg's HEY BYRN (Put It Back), conditioned by Eddie Plesa Jr. and fourth in Saturday's Florida Derby (G1) at Gulfstream Park;

Russata Stable's JAZZ IN THE PARK (Ecton Park), who is coming off a sharp Fair Grounds allowance score on March 14 for horseman Bobby Barnett;

Super Horse Inc.'s KINSALE KING (Yankee Victor), a Jesse Mendoza pupil who broke his maiden at Santa Anita on March 16;

B. Wayne Hughes' MY PAL CHARLIE (Indian Charlie), trained by Albert Stall Jr. and a solid runner-up in the March 8 Louisiana Derby (G2) at Fair Grounds;

Brereton Jones' filly PROUD SPELL (Proud Citizen), a stablemate of Eight Belles from the Larry Jones barn, who is exiting a victory in the March 8 Fair Grounds Oaks (G2);

Charlotte Wrather's ROSSO CORSA (Ferrari [Ger]), who landed a March 7 maiden at Santa Anita for conditioner Darrell Vienna;

and Peachtree Stable's SPURRIER (Dixieland Band), a Todd Pletcher pupil who is coming off an allowance/optional claiming victory at Aqueduct on March 5.

Did Hey Byrn run a good enough race to shell out $6K? And how about the two maiden winners?

--Dunbar

They were due before the Florida Derby so that is why Hey Byrn was nominated. Rossa Corsa is going in the Santa Anita Handicap. No clue who Kinsale King is or what rationale they would have for nominating him.

[hockey2315]

Barrier Reef is entered in the G3 Central Bank Transylvania Stakes on Friday at Keeneland vs. Prussian. Looks like he won't be going to the Derby.

[smuthg]

Was or is Country Star already nominated?

[Travis Stone]

Originally Posted by hockey2315

Barrier Reef is entered in the G3 Central Bank Transylvania Stakes on Friday at Keeneland vs. Prussian. Looks like he won't be going to the Derby.

Remember though that Sedgefield used the Transylvania last year before running fourth in the Derby. (This is not a Barrier Reef endorsement).

[Dunbar]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

They were due before the Florida Derby so that is why Hey Byrn was nominated. Rossa Corsa is going in the Santa Anita Handicap. No clue who Kinsale King is or what rationale they would have for nominating him.

Thanks, Sniper. The article said noms closed on Saturday, but I didn't realize it was before the Fla Derby.

Originally Posted by smuthg

Was or is Country Star already nominated?

Was already: http://www.thoroughbredtimes.com/tri.../nominees.aspx

--Dunbar

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

They were due before the Florida Derby so that is why Hey Byrn was nominated. Rossa Corsa is going in the Santa Anita Handicap. No clue who Kinsale King is or what rationale they would have for nominating him.

The Yankee Victor colt was the winner in this MSW a few weeks ago that earned Baze a suspension:

Santa Anita
March 16, 2008
8th Race

6 Furlongs | 3 Year Olds | Maiden Special Weight | Purse: $51,600

# Horse Jockey Weight Win Place Show
9 Kinsale King Baze M C 121 42.60 16.80 9.40
5 El Legado Sutherland C 121 18.20 10.00
1 Lotacat Solis A 121 3.00

Times in 5ths: :213 :441 :562 1:084
Times in 100ths: :21.74 :44.30 :56.55 1:08.84
Also ran: Odometer, Exuma, No Lien Here, Forest Echoes, Kilderry, Devil Maker, Shihaab, Hasty Court, Futuro, Age of Gold and Valentine Vow

Winning Trainer: Mendoza Jesus - Owner: Super Horse, Inc.

[SniperSB23]

Also, keep in mind these aren't just Derby nominations, they are for the whole Triple Crown so just cause a horse isn't pointing at the Derby doesn't mean it makes no sense to nominate.

[hockey2315]

Originally Posted by Travis Stone

Remember though that Sedgefield used the Transylvania last year before running fourth in the Derby. (This is not a Barrier Reef endorsement).

I thought about that but I don't think Barrier Reef has any graded earnings right now. The 90K he would get for winning the Transylvania probably won't get him in the derby so if the connections were serious about going I think they'd try one of the conventional dirt preps.

[hockey2315]

Very good point, Sniper.

[Dunbar]

I don't get this. My DerbyWatch email from DRF says:

"* Recapture the Glory was announced as another late nominee to the Triple Crown by Triple Crown Productions, bringing the total of late nominees to 11 and the overall number of nominees to 460, which equals the overall record set last year. There has been a common nomination form for the Derby, Preakness Stakes, and Belmont Stakes since 1986."

How does this come out 5 days after the supposed cutoff?!

--Dunbar

[eajinabi]

Sheikh Mohammed found $6000 under his couch cushion so he decided to nominate Barrier Reef.

This horse is my pick for the derby if he can get in but looks like connections are not forcing it by putting him in a turf race in bis next start

[Linny]

The modest level of some of the late nominees speaks to what a mess this year's bunch is. As mentioned this is a nomination to all three races, not just the Derby. Some may be looking ahead to the Preakness or Belmont.
The late report of Recapture the Glory's nomination may just be an oversight. His name may not have been on the press release from last wek, by accident. I doubt that he was nominated after the cutoff.

[Dunbar]

Originally Posted by Linny

The modest level of some of the late nominees speaks to what a mess this year's bunch is. As mentioned this is a nomination to all three races, not just the Derby. Some may be looking ahead to the Preakness or Belmont.
The late report of Recapture the Glory's nomination may just be an oversight. His name may not have been on the press release from last wek, by accident. I doubt that he was nominated after the cutoff.

That's possible Linny, but you'd think one of Recapture the Glory's connections would have noticed that the horse was not listed among the supplementals and quickly notified the TC honchos. Five days is a pretty long delay in getting it corrected.

--Dunbar