Aqueduct 12/29 late pk 4

[pointman]

Trying to work a ticket with Pmac. Looking for some opinions here. In 7th, like Elusive Value and think Cash McCool is a throwout as he has not been able to handle the off surface. Serious Fever deserves consideration as well, has a win on inner and Dutrow hot.

In the 8th, think Joey P. may get a real good trip, but it would have helped if the 4 remained in. Gold and Roses has not fared well against open competition and can see as a bet against. Debussy has a chance to take this field the whole way and I think City Attraction will be overbet.

Have been away, has there been a speed bias? Andy, could use some help here. Nice call on the winner in the last yesterday. Good luck to all playing.

[blackthroatedwind]

Speed is very strong. Seems near impossible to make up any real ground.

[philcski]

Serious speed/rail bias. Throw out any horse that won't break within 2-3 lengths of the lead. The 71-1 horse holding on as long as he did confirmed my opinion.

I feel ill not being alive in this pick 4. Had singled the 1 in the first leg, then went back and forth on using the 1 and 4 in the 2nd leg or just the 1, then went basically all-all in the last two legs.

The 3 in the 5th is very interesting. If the younger Bridgmohan can hustle this guy early i think he could take them all the way around. Clearing the 1 will be tough but the 1 will need every bit of the bias (and Dutrow magic) to help him get the distance.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by philcski

The 3 in the 5th is very interesting. If the younger Bridgmohan can hustle this guy early i think he could take them all the way around. Clearing the 1 will be tough but the 1 will need every bit of the bias (and Dutrow magic) to help him get the distance.

You apparently aren't familiar with his riding.

[pointman]

Where do you guys sit on the 8th? Debussy is intersting as he has the speed on the inside and loves the off going, could offer value here.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by pointman

Where do you guys sit on the 8th? Debussy is intersting as he has the speed on the inside and loves the off going, could offer value here.

I like Pavo....but so does everybody. Personally I think DeBussy is fool's gold but he was certainly helped by the scratch...and the racetrack.

[pmacdaddy]

Your call Nick. Don't have much time. Upstate at family party.

Threw together some stuff with my bro (ltj). We made sure to cover 1,2 / 1,2 / 1,2 / 1,5....

[philcski]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

You apparently aren't familiar with his riding.

he tried... but the Dutrow influence was too strong.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by philcski

he tried... but the Dutrow influence was too strong.

You don't actually think he really tried...do you? I'm not saying he could have gotten the lead but he is an extremely passive rider which is why he is often a victim.