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Old 07-11-2006, 09:07 AM
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The House will be given 1 min speeches on the internet gambling ban on C-Span. For those of you who care, try to wade thru the BS and listen.

Right now they are BSing about a whole bunch of diff. issues. Eventually they will get down to business. I should think this board would be very interested in this issue.
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Old 07-11-2006, 09:09 AM
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I just hope they can settle this dang Bernardini/Corinthian debate once and for all.
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Old 07-11-2006, 10:17 AM
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LOL...The Dems don't care.They are talkin' about the minimum wage.Waste of their time.Repubs ain't gunna raise that MIN. WAGE. They don't give a sht about how those poor people live.Why do they think they can pass that? So far,3 Republicans from the South urging support for the bill.Just like Scud said...Southern Social Conservatives..So far Georgia,Virginia,and Tennessee trying to tell the rest of the country how to live their lives.Why am I not surprised.
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Old 07-11-2006, 10:25 AM
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The House will be given 1 min speeches on the internet gambling ban on C-Span. For those of you who care, try to wade thru the BS and listen.

Right now they are BSing about a whole bunch of diff. issues. Eventually they will get down to business. I should think this board would be very interested in this issue.
I agree. This is a bigger issue than most people think.
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Old 07-11-2006, 11:04 AM
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Oh my God, I am so tired of elected officials legislating morality. Because gambling is entertainment for the majority of Americans-- an entertainment that some people get addicted to, yes, but if it wasn't gambling it'd be alcohol or eBay or porn or state-run lotteries or collecting doo-dads or whatever.

Though really, I'm sure it's about the money and the states not wanting to get cut out of their pieces of the pie. It's always about the money.
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Old 07-11-2006, 11:07 AM
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Oh my God, I am so tired of elected officials legislating morality. Because gambling is entertainment for the majority of Americans-- an entertainment that some people get addicted to, yes, but if it wasn't gambling it'd be alcohol or eBay or porn or state-run lotteries or collecting doo-dads or whatever.

Though really, I'm sure it's about the money and the states not wanting to get cut out of their pieces of the pie. It's always about the money.

This debate has nothing to do with legislating morality. It has everything to do with losing tax dollars. Offshore gambling has hit the business hard. Why bet big money when you have to pay taxes if you can bet without having to pay any? That is what this is about.
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Old 07-11-2006, 11:28 AM
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This debate has nothing to do with legislating morality. It has everything to do with losing tax dollars. Offshore gambling has hit the business hard. Why bet big money when you have to pay taxes if you can bet without having to pay any? That is what this is about.

Which is exactly where my liberal self runs into a conundrum. I'm not opposed to taxation; taxes pay for lots of useful things, but I do think the states are too greedy when it comes to their take on gambling profits. And they wonder why racetrack attendance drops?

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Old 07-11-2006, 11:31 AM
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While this bill may pass the house. there is no way that it will pass the senate so all they are doing is wasting time and money instead of debating about real topics.
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Old 07-11-2006, 11:33 AM
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While this bill may pass the house. there is no way that it will pass the senate so all they are doing is wasting time and money instead of debating about real topics.

But that's what they do best... debate things that will never pass so they don't have time to address the real issues. Doesn't it seem that way lately?
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Old 07-11-2006, 11:39 AM
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LOL my whole life it seems....
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Old 07-11-2006, 01:11 PM
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That Yenta from Vegas was hilarious.Trying to get the bill beat by pointing out the hypocracy of allowing some internet gambling(horses,and Lotto,)but make all other forms illegal.She put up an ammendment that would outlaw all forms of internet wagering,and get rid of the exemptions for horses and Lotto.See,these guys who say internet gambling needs to be stopped due to people getting addicted,will be shown to be hypocrates if they vote against her amendment(which they are now voting on electronically.)

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Old 07-11-2006, 03:57 PM
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IN that entire discussion Barney Frank was the only one who made sense to me. And he is not one of my favorites.

Legislation to save people from themselves has shown time and time again not to work. And all the discussion about getting young kids hooked. If they were really worried about the younger generation getting hooked on something, the prohibition of alcohol would be the thing to do. And we see how well that has worked. Alcohol and drugs have broken up so many more families and ruined young peoples lives compared to gambling. Ridiculous trying to legislate behavior at this level.
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Old 07-11-2006, 04:01 PM
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gambling is evil
drinking is evil
sex is evil

I think shopping addicts are evil
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Old 07-11-2006, 04:15 PM
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Still legal to fart?
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Old 07-11-2006, 08:56 PM
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Did anyone actually listen to the diff. Congressmen and women talk?

Everyone of them I heard for the legislation to ban internet wagering said there would be no jobs created and no finiancial gain from taxes. Even the ones opposed did not even bring up the subject. Makes me think the numbers show that it will have little economic impact.
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Old 07-11-2006, 09:09 PM
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Did anyone actually listen to the diff. Congressmen and women talk?

Everyone of them I heard for the legislation to ban internet wagering said there would be no jobs created and no finiancial gain from taxes. Even the ones opposed did not even bring up the subject. Makes me think the numbers show that it will have little economic impact.

They complained about all the billions going out of the country.Gee,if they allowed internet sportsbooks in this country,then that money wouldn't be leaving the country.Instead of allowing them to set up shop here,and create jobs etc.They want to prohibit them.It won't work.They say they want small GOV'T,but it's a lie.Libertarians want small Gov't.They gunna set up a whole new dept. of anti-gaming or some other big brother dept.?
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Old 07-11-2006, 09:20 PM
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You know who this will bug the most.Not me,I play sports maybe anywhere from once a week to once every 2 months.It just depends.I Usually switch from horses to sports if I am struggling with horses.I play horses mainly on TVG.It will bother the people who play Pinnacle,but they can go to a "legal" book online horsebetting site.I'll tell ya who it will bother.It will bother these guys that like to play all that Poker online,and people who play baseball /basketball games everyday etc. Have to see how it all gets messed up.
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Old 07-12-2006, 08:57 AM
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You know who this will bug the most.Not me,I play sports maybe anywhere from once a week to once every 2 months.It just depends.I Usually switch from horses to sports if I am struggling with horses.I play horses mainly on TVG.It will bother the people who play Pinnacle,but they can go to a "legal" book online horsebetting site.I'll tell ya who it will bother.It will bother these guys that like to play all that Poker online,and people who play baseball /basketball games everyday etc. Have to see how it all gets messed up.
Yeah, the racing bettors can go thru other avenues but without the 7%. Makes a big difference.
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