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Old 09-02-2007, 02:10 PM
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In tomorrow's 6th at AP Holding Court ships in from Bangalore India for a 0-0 stat trainer. His bankroll of 286K over 21 races is impressive, considering his rivals tomorrow. Has absolutely no speed ratings; beyers or otherwise and his final times aren't all that impressive. Any ideas? I'm inclined to throw him out. Very full and impressive card for Arlington's "Turf Day". Should be a great one with the welcomed extra money from the huge crowd they will draw.
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Old 09-02-2007, 02:15 PM
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Dell,

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Can't believe the horse can be a whole lot but might be better if it's 107 degrees as most likely what it's use to. The way jobs are being outsourced to India I have to take a stand against. What, now they are replacing our horses too?

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Old 09-02-2007, 02:21 PM
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Dell,

First, awesome avatar!

Can't believe the horse can be a whole lot but might be better if it's 107 degrees as most likely what it's use to. The way jobs are being outsourced to India I have to take a stand against. What, now they are replacing our horses too?

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this one is a head scratcher. We have only 2 more weeks in the meet and this guy ships in with his first horse. Probably just going to single Go Between and use Demeteor as a backup at 10-1.
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I remember there was an India bred and raced horse in one of the Dubai World Cup Turf Races this year. They interviewed the trainer before the race, and he straight up said "that he just wanted the horse to run respectable, and a top-3 finish would be a bonus". I'm not sure if it's the same horse, or if it's a different one. But when looking at it's stats in the DRF, it did have a turf tomlinson of over 400. I apologize for not remembering the name. All I'm getting at, is maybe it's becoming an up and coming country for horse racing? All you need is some rich people, and import some well-bred horses for breeding purposes, and you have a base.
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Different horse. That one was named Mystical. Not sure of trainer.
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Old 09-02-2007, 02:31 PM
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just found out different tainer as well. Ganapathy trained Mystical and this guy's name is Padmanabhan.
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this one is a head scratcher. We have only 2 more weeks in the meet and this guy ships in with his first horse. Probably just going to single Go Between and use Demeteor as a backup at 10-1.
Holding Court was gonna come for the Arlington Million but had problems getting here.....

Read something on one of the India racing sites..... he had stops in India, Thailand, So Korea, Alaska..... geez. Poor thing.

A lot of planning and effort and India is trying so hard to gain international respect..... GOOD for them for coming. This horse was 2nd to the greatest horse in India, Mystical, a few times..... hope he does well.
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Different horse. That one was named Mystical. Not sure of trainer.
THE GREATEST HORSE IN INDIA!!!
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Old 09-02-2007, 03:15 PM
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A picture of Holding Court and his trainer, because i thought the other one was, ummm..... why don't i not go into that.

http://www.indiarace.com/Reviews/Mum...-AnilMukhi.htm

Piece on Indiarace.com.....

Holding Court to run on Labor Day

By Tom Krish
Aug 29, 2007


Holding Court is training forwardly. Under the watchful eye of trainer Padmanabhan, the Indian star went 1200 metres in 1.12.8 last Sunday. The official Arlington Park track report characterized the work as ‘breezing.’

The $45,000 Rossi Gold Stakes to be run on Monday, September 3, 2007 is Holding Court’s target. It is a race over 1900 metres on the grass and is for horses three year-olds and up. The Arlington Park publicity wing is going to extraordinary lengths to promote Holding Court’s debut on American soil.

Monday is a national holiday in America. It is Labor Day. It is the day on which summer vacations end and it is time for children to go back to school. Technically, summer comes to an end at the beginning of the fourth week in September.

There are nine races scheduled for Labor Day. The first race will be run on the polytrack. Races two through nine, will be on the grass. Chicago, after experiencing severe thunderstorms, is going through a dry spell. If the weather holds up, grass racing on Labor Day should be a veritable feast.

I talked to trainer Paddy on Sunday in a friend’s house in Naperville, a suburb of Chicago. “I have come a long way. I was an assistant to trainer B L Mohan in 1977 in Chennai. Later, I worked for trainer Mir Hyder Ali Khan in Hyderabad. I went out on my own in 1981. If I remember correctly, Insat was my first major winner in 1983. It was on Invitation Cup day in Mumbai. I moved my base to Bangalore as racing in Chennai deteriorated. M Subramaniam and C Krishnamurthy are names I readily recall. Their early patronage paved the way for future successes.”

“I have about fifty horses in training. Thirty four of them are racing and the others are two year-olds who will begin their careers when winter racing gets underway in India. I have always been interested in exploring new horizons. I took Classical Act and Zurbaran to race in the Dubai festival in 2005. Despite tremendous adversity, they acquitted themselves well. Classical Act, especially, made me proud. Holding Court’s trip to America is an extension of my dream.”

Trainer Padmanabhan spoke in glowing terms of his help in Chicago. “Vikram Singh has come from India. He knows Holding Court and is the critical link. James McKeown from England has come to Arlington and he will stay with Holding Court as we consider our future options.”

“Travel problems generated by quarantine restrictions set our clock back. The presence of screw worms in horses coming from abroad is a major concern in the US. Screw worms are more prevalent in tropical countries. Holding Court had been assured a spot in the Million (on August 11) but he was held up in New York. It was a logistical challenge. From Bangalore, it was on to Chennai. The next stop was Bangkok. The next stop was Seoul. From Seoul, Holding Court went to Anchorage in Alaska. Then it was across America to New York, on the east coast. Seven days in New York and finally to Chicago. It was unfortunate that we did not get to Chicago to race in the Million. The time of the race, the way the race was run and the ‘yielding’ ground would have given Holding Court a realistic chance,” Padmanabhan averred.

In the case of Dubai, there is a detention center in Mumbai, run with generous assistance from the Poonawallas. Horses from India can now go to Dubai in a matter of hours because of the new ‘protocol.’ I wish a similar scenario is created for other destinations as well,” Padmanabhan noted.

“Arlington Park is beautiful. I am impressed with the all-weather track. You cannot ask for better facilities. Above all, people are friendly and helpful. We are being treated very well. I am very satisfied with the way Holding Court is working. I am expecting a brisk pace in the Rossi Gold. I am optimistic,” Padmanabhan continued.

Talking about the significance of the American visit, trainer Padmanabhan was philosophical. “Holding Court represents the aspirations of the Indian breeding establishment. Competing at the highest level in the US is a big challenge. It needs meticulous planning. You have to keep the horse in good condition. India is being put on the world racing map. Personally, it gives me immense job satisfaction.”

Holding Court will stay on in America. After the Rossi Gold, trainer Paddy is looking at a race in Kentucky in early October.

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Old 09-02-2007, 03:35 PM
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I am impressed with their intitiative and I wish the team well. Welcome to America !
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PPs......

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I expect the Indian invader to be favored. There isn't a whole lot to beat in there.
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MMSC wouldn't say it, but i will. That picture was racist and i hope it is removed from this thread.

This horse is pretty useful, and wouldn't be out of it's depth in many of the top turf races in America.

A few years ago i said that India would soon be a force to be reckoned with in international Horseracing and at the moment they are going the right way in proving me right. They are slowing building up a base of very wealthy owners and soon, i predict them to be competeing at the very highest level (especially in Dubai).

I for one hope it smokes the field at Arlington.

It must just shut a few people up.
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what a journey this horse took to make it here? very sporting of them and good luck to these guys who are just trying to build up their program by getting noticed internationally.
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Old 09-03-2007, 10:31 AM
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He'll be getting a nice weight break today. He's been carrying between 132 and 136 in India. 118 today.
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MMSC wouldn't say it, but i will. That picture was racist and i hope it is removed from this thread.
You're right.

I wouldn't say it because it was wrong on so many levels.....

Oh and the comment about taking a stand against and outsourcing?

Okay right... I forgot that is THIS horses fault so lets all take it out on him.

Jesus.

This is racing. This is about racing.

Talk about sportsmanship... the planning and frustration and cost and stress and everything else involved to get this horse over here and there's a little joke or "joke" that shows Ugly American Syndrome at it's finest? You who would not only stereotype but belittle a true icon to millions around the world as well.....

It makes me sick.
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MMSC wouldn't say it, but i will. That picture was racist and i hope it is removed from this thread.


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I for one hope it smokes the field at Arlington.

It must just shut a few people up.
Care to enlighten this educated bleeding heart Yankee liberal on how that picture is rascist?

BTW, I'm betting the horse from India
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You're right.

I wouldn't say it because it was wrong on so many levels.....

Oh and the comment about taking a stand against and outsourcing?

Okay right... I forgot that is THIS horses fault so lets all take it out on him.

Jesus.

This is racing. This is about racing.

Talk about sportsmanship... the planning and frustration and cost and stress and everything else involved to get this horse over here and there's a little joke or "joke" that shows Ugly American Syndrome at it's finest? You who would not only stereotype but belittle a true icon to millions around the world as well.....

It makes me sick.
I'm with MyMissStormCat and NoChanceto Dance on this one. The picture is the sort of racist crap that we don't need in this country and certainly don't need on this site.
And by the way, if people can't understand why posting that picture and saying that it is a picture of the horse's trainer is racist......I would suggest they figure out what actually constitutes racism. It doesn't only exist in the KKK.
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Was an attempt at humor but you're right it was bad form. I apologize to those offended.

I guess it's the result of my feelings on the vast wave of jobs that have been lost in this country by huge corporations that will do everything to squeeze a greater profit at the expense of the American worker....and several calls to US Air and ending up talking to someone in India that has not a clue how to pronounce most statses as well as properly serve the customer.

Sorry,

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