Unfortunate scratch makes for chalky pick 4

[AeWingnut]

I handicapped the pick four at Saratoga thinking that -
while it is unfortunate that Ticket to Seattle scratched it was still going to be ok to bet a closer, Debbie Got Even because Feather Bed would make sure things wouldn't be easy for La Traviata. I never heard anything about Feather Bed being scratched didn't even notice it when I made my pick 4 bet.

The only way the pick 4 is worth betting is if you can get at least 1 horse home that isn't below 5-1 and the late scratch really irks me.

[AeWingnut]

on paper it would have been a different race.

the result may have been the same but I think Feather Bed would have made it interesting instead of a walk over

either way the pick 4 was horrible
the 11th race was the only thing that saved me

[AeWingnut]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

There was other speed other than Featherbed, they were no match for her. She is too quick. It was going to be a "walkover" no matter what.

the pace numbers for Feather Bed were the only ones that were competitive with La John Travolta

I suppose if you bet the pick for 300 times it would make the race interesting

[Joerulesthespa]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

The only thing that would have made things not so easy for La Traviata is if she gave the other fillies a furlong head start. Featherbed was not going to affect her at all, she is in a different league than those fillies.

totally agree La Traviata is a BEAST, she could beat rags...

[Lava]

Originally Posted by Joerulesthespa

totally agree La Traviata is a BEAST, she could beat rags...

LMAO have you been drinking

[letswastemoney]

Originally Posted by Joerulesthespa

totally agree La Traviata is a BEAST, she could beat rags...

Of course she could beat Rags......at 6 furlongs. Let's see her do it at 1 mile and up.

[AeWingnut]

you can talk about how La Traviata is a monster doesn't change the fact that the late scratch was unfortunate for people that are in a situation where you don't get the track announcements after they give the changes first thing in the morning.

The pick 4 with my pick would have paid over $1k. That is the only reason I risked my money. I would never do it for a $80 pick 4

I never had a prayer after they scratched Featherbed, a horse at least on paper is capable of keeping pace with La Traviata. I think whoever scratched the horse late needs to give me a refund of the $9 I wasted.

[SentToStud]

Originally Posted by AeWingnut

the pace numbers for Feather Bed were the only ones that were competitive with La John Travolta

I suppose if you bet the pick for 300 times it would make the race interesting

Featherbed was scratched over an hour before the 7th race, the start of your pick-4.

If you are wagering $300 (or even $1) units on p-4 wagers, don't you owe it to yourself to make darn sure you know the late scratches?

If I was at the track and wagering on a p-4, I would go to a teller and get the scratches punched out before I made my wager.

If I was home and wagering any amount on a p-4, I would go to the NYRA website and check for late scratches.

Live and learn. As far as lessons go, $9 for this one seems pretty cheap.

[AeWingnut]

Originally Posted by SentToStud

Featherbed was scratched over an hour before the 7th race, the start of your pick-4.

If you are wagering $300 (or even $1) units on p-4 wagers, don't you owe it to yourself to make darn sure you know the late scratches?

If I was at the track and wagering on a p-4, I would go to a teller and get the scratches punched out before I made my wager.

If I was home and wagering any amount on a p-4, I would go to the NYRA website and check for late scratches.

Live and learn. As far as lessons go, $9 for this one seems pretty cheap.

if a tree falls in the forest and there's no one there to hear it
and yes, I am really cheap. Being a $2 bettor, I find when I spend more it only means that I don't have a handle on the races.

[AeWingnut]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

We obviously have a difference of opinion, as I think you never had a prayer if you were trying to beat La Traviata. How do you know what your pic 4 was going to pay, there is no way of telling that? I also think you are way, way off if you think having Featherbed in the race was going to somehow enable Debbie Got Even to make up the 11+ lengths she was defeated by.

that being the last leg of the pick 4
they show will pays

and as far as the 11 lengths

two words

Giac omo

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by AeWingnut

that being the last leg of the pick 4
they show will pays

and as far as the 11 lengths

two words

Giac omo

I am pretty sure LT still would have won. She ran the opening quarter in :22 flat anyway, so I'm not sure that Featherbed being in the race would have changed things THAT much. LT was able to relax a bit in the second quarter, which she probably wouldn't have been able to do if your girl had been in there, so that would have made a difference, but I doubt if it would have made an 11-length difference.
I really don't understand what you are talking about with the Giacomo reference. Are you just suggesting that when the pace is suicidal up front less talented closers can sometimes pick up the pieces as he did in the '05 Derby? If so, nobody would disagree with you there, but I don't think it is an apt comparison. That race had a designated rabbit and was 10f. Featherbed was not a rabbit, the race was at 6f instead of 10f, and Giacomo won by a neck while LT won by 11 lengths.

[AeWingnut]

I thought maybe the trainer left his cobra venom at Keeneland and the horse wouldn't like being headed.. the pace never developed because the Pletcher horse scratched.

Saratoga is supposed to be the Graveyard of Champions

not this year

wouldn't want anyone to have to take a bitter pill