Let's Guess The Beyer...

[justindew]

104

[fpsoxfan]

106

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

curlin 112
ss 110

[ateamstupid]

A short head isn't going to produce a 2-point difference..

I think it's going to be at least 110. Flashy Bull and Hesanoldsalt ran 1:47 4/5.. My guess is 111.

[GPK]

109 and 108 respectively

[Hickory Hill Hoff]

The classic "111" !

[ceejay]

1/2 head => same bsf. 113 is my guess.

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by GPK

109 and 108 respectively

It's interesting, Dr Roman has given both Curlin and Street Sense a -52 PF (as compared to SS's -57 Derby)..that would equal a 103 Beyer if seen the same by Beyer. That seems a little low to me...I thought the PF for both would be in the -60's...will have to wait to see what Beyer says

[The Indomitable DrugS]

This is a VERY tough card to make figures for....

There will be at least one variant split.

Whatever the figure comes back, I would almost take it with a grain of salt, as it would be VERY difficult to have any confidence in that number.

I'd be very interested to hear how CJ has it....because his figures factor pace in.

[ceejay]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

I'd be very interested to hear how CJ has it....because his figures factor pace in.

He provides both a speed fig and a performance fig. Tha latter takes pace into account.

ps, as you probably know I'm not that cj

Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead

curlin 112
ss 110

I second this assessment.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by pgardn

I second this assessment.

Curlin and SS will both get the exact same figure--there won't be a 2 point gap.

If the margin is anything less than a half length at that distance...the figures come back the same for both horses.

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Curlin and SS will both get the exact same figure--there won't be a 2 point gap.

If the margin is anything less than a half length at that distance...the figures come back the same for both horses.

Yes probably so. But there should be a 1 or 2 point diff. Tougher run for the winner.

[alysheba4]

should be a 120.......that race was freaking HUGE.

[todko]

Beyer's never been high on the winner. His speed figure will be interesting. For about 2-3 seconds. Maybe a split variant with all the races through the 11th on one variant and the 12th and 13th on a different variant.

During a TV interview Beyer said he felt the track was not playing particularly fast when questioned.

Originally Posted by todko

Beyer's never been high on the winner. His speed figure will be interesting. For about 2-3 seconds. Maybe a split variant with all the races through the 11th on one variant and the 12th and 13th on a different variant.

During a TV interview Beyer said he felt the track was not playing particularly fast when questioned.

Does Beyer actually do the numbers anymore, or just alter them?

[Slewbopper]

Quote:
Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead
curlin 112
ss 110


I second this assessment.

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Since when is a nose two BSF points?

[mclem10011]

I third those numbers 112-Curlin
110-Street Sense